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		<title>By: Buck Galaxy</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/07/26/the-democratic-party-platform-and-space/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Galaxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. Other nations have dreams of greatness which they will someday acheive.  America has way too much at stake with our space-reliant military to ignore the emerging competition.  Kerry MUST see this and will continue the vision in some form. We need to dominate cis-lunar space.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Other nations have dreams of greatness which they will someday acheive.  America has way too much at stake with our space-reliant military to ignore the emerging competition.  Kerry MUST see this and will continue the vision in some form. We need to dominate cis-lunar space.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Parkin</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/07/26/the-democratic-party-platform-and-space/#comment-1021</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Parkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And so we return to the perennial issue of public support, and the reflection of that support (or lack thereof) in politics.  

In the end it won&#039;t matter, someone&#039;s administration -republican or democrat- will have a space-related crisis on their hands.  When we find ourselves outmaneuvered, first by the long-term policy of others and later by technological and logistical capability, we might come to view today&#039;s space priorities in the same light as we now view our intelligence priorities of four years ago.

Where is Congress?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so we return to the perennial issue of public support, and the reflection of that support (or lack thereof) in politics.  </p>
<p>In the end it won&#8217;t matter, someone&#8217;s administration -republican or democrat- will have a space-related crisis on their hands.  When we find ourselves outmaneuvered, first by the long-term policy of others and later by technological and logistical capability, we might come to view today&#8217;s space priorities in the same light as we now view our intelligence priorities of four years ago.</p>
<p>Where is Congress?</p>
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		<title>By: John Malkin</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/07/26/the-democratic-party-platform-and-space/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Malkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 05:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are a long way from this being done, the appropriation committee has yet to issue there report, however in the summary they support the vision.

It doesn&#039;t matter what a politian intend but rather what we enforce with our vote and voice.  Currently O&#039;Keefe is a chapion for the vision but his time may be limited.

Brave heart, the game is afoot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a long way from this being done, the appropriation committee has yet to issue there report, however in the summary they support the vision.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what a politian intend but rather what we enforce with our vote and voice.  Currently O&#8217;Keefe is a chapion for the vision but his time may be limited.</p>
<p>Brave heart, the game is afoot!</p>
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		<title>By: steve harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/07/26/the-democratic-party-platform-and-space/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve harrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AvWeek writes that the funding for the new moon mars program has been cut. 

http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/07264wna.xml

What is worse for the space exploration supporter? The president who gives one speech which causes NASA to plan for an unfunded program? Or the candidate who makes no plans when there is no funding? I am afraid that the purpose of Bush&#039;s speech was only to gather support from aerospace companies and space exploration supporters and nothing more. I am one of the chumps who sent in a white paper on the CEV. 
http://kahuna.sdsu.edu/~sharring/Pistonless_pump_for_CEV.pdf
For a good spoof of his January speech see
http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2004/011504.asp
The funny thing about the spoof is how accurate they were. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AvWeek writes that the funding for the new moon mars program has been cut. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/07264wna.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_awst_story.jsp?id=news/07264wna.xml</a></p>
<p>What is worse for the space exploration supporter? The president who gives one speech which causes NASA to plan for an unfunded program? Or the candidate who makes no plans when there is no funding? I am afraid that the purpose of Bush&#8217;s speech was only to gather support from aerospace companies and space exploration supporters and nothing more. I am one of the chumps who sent in a white paper on the CEV.<br />
<a href="http://kahuna.sdsu.edu/~sharring/Pistonless_pump_for_CEV.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://kahuna.sdsu.edu/~sharring/Pistonless_pump_for_CEV.pdf</a><br />
For a good spoof of his January speech see<br />
<a href="http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2004/011504.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2004/011504.asp</a><br />
The funny thing about the spoof is how accurate they were. </p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Perry A. Noriega</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/07/26/the-democratic-party-platform-and-space/#comment-1018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perry A. Noriega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 03:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still agree with Rand Simberg, when he says that plenty of people will persuade him to keep the STS-ISS going, as it&#039;s the only game in town, will keep the people working on those projects working, and will not cost &quot;billions and billions&quot;. At the same time, he is also right in saying that space is a mile wide and an inch deep issue for almost everyone who is not part of the tiny space community in the US,and around the world too. 

That is why we need to work on recruitment and training of a new cadre of younger members of the space community who know better than to repeat the mistakes the Baby Boomers and Generation X made regarding space: i.e.: Doing what doesn&#039;t work over and over and over again, not developing real skills useful in the real world, instead of expecting you to get training, skills, knowledge, a formal education, and then casting you loose to sink or swim out in the real world, with no support from your mentors and fellow spacers. The space community falls down flat on supporting each other like the Federalist Society did for lawyers who believed in statist advancement regarding the Justice Department.

No one skill, activity, action, or anything else by itself will get us into space; rather, a combination of different actions in different realms, like complementary currencies, multiyear NASA funding, reforming NASA, alt.space company support, training and promoting cadre, mentoring the younger generation to be successful activists, bypassing conventional lying media who have never told the truth about space, beconing slick, savvy, worldly salesmen for the idea of a spacefaring civilization in our lifetimes, or at least the lifetimes of our children and our younger charges, and just plain telling the common folk space settlement is possible, won&#039;t bust the bank, and is something you can invest in and be a part of right now, is part of how we will get to space in a major way, not voting for the &quot;right party&quot;, hoping they give us handouts in our cup for space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still agree with Rand Simberg, when he says that plenty of people will persuade him to keep the STS-ISS going, as it&#8217;s the only game in town, will keep the people working on those projects working, and will not cost &#8220;billions and billions&#8221;. At the same time, he is also right in saying that space is a mile wide and an inch deep issue for almost everyone who is not part of the tiny space community in the US,and around the world too. </p>
<p>That is why we need to work on recruitment and training of a new cadre of younger members of the space community who know better than to repeat the mistakes the Baby Boomers and Generation X made regarding space: i.e.: Doing what doesn&#8217;t work over and over and over again, not developing real skills useful in the real world, instead of expecting you to get training, skills, knowledge, a formal education, and then casting you loose to sink or swim out in the real world, with no support from your mentors and fellow spacers. The space community falls down flat on supporting each other like the Federalist Society did for lawyers who believed in statist advancement regarding the Justice Department.</p>
<p>No one skill, activity, action, or anything else by itself will get us into space; rather, a combination of different actions in different realms, like complementary currencies, multiyear NASA funding, reforming NASA, alt.space company support, training and promoting cadre, mentoring the younger generation to be successful activists, bypassing conventional lying media who have never told the truth about space, beconing slick, savvy, worldly salesmen for the idea of a spacefaring civilization in our lifetimes, or at least the lifetimes of our children and our younger charges, and just plain telling the common folk space settlement is possible, won&#8217;t bust the bank, and is something you can invest in and be a part of right now, is part of how we will get to space in a major way, not voting for the &#8220;right party&#8221;, hoping they give us handouts in our cup for space.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are other factors that I&#039;m convinced will persuade Kerry.  First we are in a mini space race already with China, Europe, Russia, Japan and India to establish a presence on the moon.  Next, we simply are not going to cancel the human space program.  It&#039;s not in the cards.  Kerry&#039;s voting record says how much he likes the space station.  I don&#039;t think he will sink us deeper into that pit.  The shuttle has had its day and the CEV will be tough to cancel as its replacement.  Intense lunar research by robotic craft could deliver a positive ice-on-the-moon verdict and that would bring certainty to a manned return to the moon (by someone) within a decade.  I think space might actually become a campaign issue if China grabbed all the prime real estate on the moon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other factors that I&#8217;m convinced will persuade Kerry.  First we are in a mini space race already with China, Europe, Russia, Japan and India to establish a presence on the moon.  Next, we simply are not going to cancel the human space program.  It&#8217;s not in the cards.  Kerry&#8217;s voting record says how much he likes the space station.  I don&#8217;t think he will sink us deeper into that pit.  The shuttle has had its day and the CEV will be tough to cancel as its replacement.  Intense lunar research by robotic craft could deliver a positive ice-on-the-moon verdict and that would bring certainty to a manned return to the moon (by someone) within a decade.  I think space might actually become a campaign issue if China grabbed all the prime real estate on the moon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;...there is a majority (60%) of pro-space Dems as well as pro space (79%) Repubs.&lt;/em&gt;

Those numbers are meaningless. Most folks&#039; support for space is a mile wide and an inch deep.  They&#039;re not pro-space enough for it to be a voting issue.  Neither Kerry or Bush will win (or lose) an election on the issue.  

If Kerry is elected, there are plenty of people in Houston and Florida who will persuade Kerry that he should reverse the evil Bush plan to phase out the Shuttle, and resurrect Clinton&#039;s wonderful Internationally cooperative space station program, and not waste money on sending people beyond earth orbit.  I think that it will appeal to him.  I hope that my prediction isn&#039;t tested, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8230;there is a majority (60%) of pro-space Dems as well as pro space (79%) Repubs.</em></p>
<p>Those numbers are meaningless. Most folks&#8217; support for space is a mile wide and an inch deep.  They&#8217;re not pro-space enough for it to be a voting issue.  Neither Kerry or Bush will win (or lose) an election on the issue.  </p>
<p>If Kerry is elected, there are plenty of people in Houston and Florida who will persuade Kerry that he should reverse the evil Bush plan to phase out the Shuttle, and resurrect Clinton&#8217;s wonderful Internationally cooperative space station program, and not waste money on sending people beyond earth orbit.  I think that it will appeal to him.  I hope that my prediction isn&#8217;t tested, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Galaxy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buck Galaxy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hit &quot;post&quot; before signing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hit &#8220;post&#8221; before signing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rand, there is a majority (60%) of pro-space Dems as well as pro space (79%) Repubs.  You can see this in polls and on space discussion boards (a good one to check out is habitablezone.com).  When the affordable budgets are explained then people come on board.  We&#039;ll see Kerry come along to the vision once he&#039;s elected.  There may be some tweaks but essentially we can&#039;t go back to a NASA with no mission after ISS.  Edwards also came out for the vision in the primaries and NASA will be under his perview.  I like Kerry coming out strong for the prizes idea too.  This alone could get us back to the moon faster than the vision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand, there is a majority (60%) of pro-space Dems as well as pro space (79%) Repubs.  You can see this in polls and on space discussion boards (a good one to check out is habitablezone.com).  When the affordable budgets are explained then people come on board.  We&#8217;ll see Kerry come along to the vision once he&#8217;s elected.  There may be some tweaks but essentially we can&#8217;t go back to a NASA with no mission after ISS.  Edwards also came out for the vision in the primaries and NASA will be under his perview.  I like Kerry coming out strong for the prizes idea too.  This alone could get us back to the moon faster than the vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez. I click twice. Sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez. I click twice. Sorry.</p>
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