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	<title>Comments on: CBO report on NASA exploration plan</title>
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	<description>Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway...</description>
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		<title>By: Harold LaValley</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold LaValley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The report and its figures can also be used to hamper any future spending request by Nasa for new projects, since it sort of establishes base line figures for each type.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The report and its figures can also be used to hamper any future spending request by Nasa for new projects, since it sort of establishes base line figures for each type.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1392</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;One thing I&#039;m wondering: Why are they saying it will cost this much and take this long now? Didn&#039;t it take much less time in the 60s? Wasn&#039;t it cheaper too?&quot;

Perhaps it would help if you actually bothered to read the CBO report.  There is a helpful bar chart on page 18 that compares costs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One thing I&#8217;m wondering: Why are they saying it will cost this much and take this long now? Didn&#8217;t it take much less time in the 60s? Wasn&#8217;t it cheaper too?&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps it would help if you actually bothered to read the CBO report.  There is a helpful bar chart on page 18 that compares costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, this isn&#039;t a repeat of Apollo, it&#039;s establishment of long-term man-tended or inhabited structures on the surface, and actually learning to make use of lunar resources. At least I assume that&#039;s the program that&#039;s being analyzed here. So comparison to Apollo isn&#039;t necessarily valid. That said, it does seem a bit on the high side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, this isn&#8217;t a repeat of Apollo, it&#8217;s establishment of long-term man-tended or inhabited structures on the surface, and actually learning to make use of lunar resources. At least I assume that&#8217;s the program that&#8217;s being analyzed here. So comparison to Apollo isn&#8217;t necessarily valid. That said, it does seem a bit on the high side.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Zinthefer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Zinthefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So $2 billion more than keeping the shuttle.  How much will be saved if we get out of ISS?  Has to be more than the other $2 billion.

One thing I&#039;m wondering:  Why are they saying it will cost this much and take this long now?  Didn&#039;t it take much less time in the 60s?  Wasn&#039;t it cheaper too?  Does anyone know what Mercury/Gemini/Apollo cost in today&#039;s dollars?  It had to have been less.  I&#039;d love to see NASA&#039;s reasoning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So $2 billion more than keeping the shuttle.  How much will be saved if we get out of ISS?  Has to be more than the other $2 billion.</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m wondering:  Why are they saying it will cost this much and take this long now?  Didn&#8217;t it take much less time in the 60s?  Wasn&#8217;t it cheaper too?  Does anyone know what Mercury/Gemini/Apollo cost in today&#8217;s dollars?  It had to have been less.  I&#8217;d love to see NASA&#8217;s reasoning.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original NASA FY04 Shuttle budget for FY04 was $3,986,400,000 for five shuttle flights and some development work ($96.8M goes to the latter).  See http://ifmp.nasa.gov/codeb/budget2004/24-Space_Shuttle.pdf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original NASA FY04 Shuttle budget for FY04 was $3,986,400,000 for five shuttle flights and some development work ($96.8M goes to the latter).  See <a href="http://ifmp.nasa.gov/codeb/budget2004/24-Space_Shuttle.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ifmp.nasa.gov/codeb/budget2004/24-Space_Shuttle.pdf</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dogsbd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All esimates I&#039;ve ever seen on shuttle cost per year have ran 4-5 billion, don&#039;t believe I&#039;ve ever seen it esimated as low as 3 billion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All esimates I&#8217;ve ever seen on shuttle cost per year have ran 4-5 billion, don&#8217;t believe I&#8217;ve ever seen it esimated as low as 3 billion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 02:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So that looks like about $6 billion per year. Isn&#039;t that about what the shuttle costs?&quot;

No.  Shuttle is about half of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So that looks like about $6 billion per year. Isn&#8217;t that about what the shuttle costs?&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  Shuttle is about half of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Zinthefer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Zinthefer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2004 02:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So that looks like about $6 billion per year.  Isn&#039;t that about what the shuttle costs?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that looks like about $6 billion per year.  Isn&#8217;t that about what the shuttle costs?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/09/06/cbo-report-on-nasa-exploration-plan/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the issue of reserves, you have to understand what &quot;reserves&quot; usually means in government budgets--they are not money that is sitting around to be used for overruns.  As it was explained to me, reserves are usually allocated for lots of little extras that the programmers simply do not want to put in the main budget, they are not backup funds to be used when you run into problems.  In other words, if your main project overruns, you cannot borrow from the reserves.  The CBO report takes this into account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the issue of reserves, you have to understand what &#8220;reserves&#8221; usually means in government budgets&#8211;they are not money that is sitting around to be used for overruns.  As it was explained to me, reserves are usually allocated for lots of little extras that the programmers simply do not want to put in the main budget, they are not backup funds to be used when you run into problems.  In other words, if your main project overruns, you cannot borrow from the reserves.  The CBO report takes this into account.</p>
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