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		<title>By: Jeff Foust</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1594</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Foust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the decline in the quality of this discussion, I am closing comments for this post.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the decline in the quality of this discussion, I am closing comments for this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1593</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oler likes to post after he&#039;s had a few sips - for courage]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oler likes to post after he&#8217;s had a few sips &#8211; for courage</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted by at October 17, 2004 09:37 AM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by at October 17, 2004 09:37 AM</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1591</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 14:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oler lives in a fantasy world - you can safely ignore whatever he writes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oler lives in a fantasy world &#8211; you can safely ignore whatever he writes</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 05:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted by Derek L. at October 16, 2004 11:45 PM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Derek L. at October 16, 2004 11:45 PM</p>
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		<title>By: Derek L.</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;IE more of the same, circling the globe endlessly as we&#039;ve done since 1981.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s only a problem to people who confuse Buck Rodgers stunts with science and exploration.

&lt;i&gt;As for the lunar program. Had Jack Kennedy got a second term by the time it was over Jan 20, 1969 well the lunar landing was less then 6 months away. The heavy lifting had been done and Kennedy would have been Potus when 8 went around the Moon.&lt;/i&gt;

That makes the strong and unfounded assumption that Apollo recieved any significant support from Kennedy.  Before his death he was already backing away from it.  After his death it recieved a groundswell of support as his monument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>IE more of the same, circling the globe endlessly as we&#8217;ve done since 1981.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s only a problem to people who confuse Buck Rodgers stunts with science and exploration.</p>
<p><i>As for the lunar program. Had Jack Kennedy got a second term by the time it was over Jan 20, 1969 well the lunar landing was less then 6 months away. The heavy lifting had been done and Kennedy would have been Potus when 8 went around the Moon.</i></p>
<p>That makes the strong and unfounded assumption that Apollo recieved any significant support from Kennedy.  Before his death he was already backing away from it.  After his death it recieved a groundswell of support as his monument.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted by Dogsbd at October 16, 2004 10:00 PM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Dogsbd at October 16, 2004 10:00 PM</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted by Dogsbd at October 16, 2004 10:42 PM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Dogsbd at October 16, 2004 10:42 PM</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/10/14/debate-notes/#comment-1586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 04:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Posted by Dogsbd at October 16, 2004 10:00 PM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Dogsbd at October 16, 2004 10:00 PM</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2004 03:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In the past 20 years nothing in the manned space realm has moved from &#039;idea&#039; to contracts in 10 months.&quot;

This statement is a bit misleading. First of all, the CEV is still in the conceptual stage: any contracts to be awarded soon will cover design work; no hardware will be built for at least a couple of years.  Second, much of the CEV work carried over, in practice, from the OSP program that dates back to late 2002.
And let&#039;s not forget that there&#039;s no guarantee that Congress will fund the CEV in 2005...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the past 20 years nothing in the manned space realm has moved from &#8216;idea&#8217; to contracts in 10 months.&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement is a bit misleading. First of all, the CEV is still in the conceptual stage: any contracts to be awarded soon will cover design work; no hardware will be built for at least a couple of years.  Second, much of the CEV work carried over, in practice, from the OSP program that dates back to late 2002.<br />
And let&#8217;s not forget that there&#8217;s no guarantee that Congress will fund the CEV in 2005&#8230;</p>
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