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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 22:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, in a sense, it really doesn&#039;t matter.  

However, off the top of my head, the standard that it is okay to preemptively attack any country you perceive as a threat or to force them to become what we define as a democracy.  The standard that US soldiers only obey international law when they agree with it.  The standard that our environmental faiths trump everyone else&#039;s needs, for example, global warming does not exist whatever the rest of the world may think, and our refusal to work with the rest of the world on dealing with a probable problem for which we are a major cause.  The standard that, because some large percentage of us believe in certain kinds of family structures and behavior, international organizations to which we contribute must enforce those standards whatever they and other contributors may need or think.  The standard that &quot;our god is better than theirs&quot; and that, and that alone, makes us right.  

All of these boil down to might makes right -- the very essence of imperialism.  

It may be true that might makes right, but in the past we have held ourselves to a higher standard -- at least in word and occasionally in deed.  We used to try to be a different and better country and to set a standard for the rest of the world.  Today we are wallowing in the mud just like everyone else, holding and even torturing without trial people we define as our enemies and insisting that there is nothing wrong with that, attacking countries that haven&#039;t attacked us, clamping down on civil liberties at home, ad nausium.  

How is that different from Sadam&#039;s behavior?  We are no longer different in kind; only in degree -- and in raw power.  Whatever the justification, I think that is a very dangerous and sad thing to happen to my country.

And, to bring this back to the matter at hand, playing imperial power while pretending that it doesn&#039;t cost any sacrifice at home has eaten up every penny that Mr. Bush might have spent returning us to Earth&#039;s moon and going on to Mars. . . .



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in a sense, it really doesn&#8217;t matter.  </p>
<p>However, off the top of my head, the standard that it is okay to preemptively attack any country you perceive as a threat or to force them to become what we define as a democracy.  The standard that US soldiers only obey international law when they agree with it.  The standard that our environmental faiths trump everyone else&#8217;s needs, for example, global warming does not exist whatever the rest of the world may think, and our refusal to work with the rest of the world on dealing with a probable problem for which we are a major cause.  The standard that, because some large percentage of us believe in certain kinds of family structures and behavior, international organizations to which we contribute must enforce those standards whatever they and other contributors may need or think.  The standard that &#8220;our god is better than theirs&#8221; and that, and that alone, makes us right.  </p>
<p>All of these boil down to might makes right &#8212; the very essence of imperialism.  </p>
<p>It may be true that might makes right, but in the past we have held ourselves to a higher standard &#8212; at least in word and occasionally in deed.  We used to try to be a different and better country and to set a standard for the rest of the world.  Today we are wallowing in the mud just like everyone else, holding and even torturing without trial people we define as our enemies and insisting that there is nothing wrong with that, attacking countries that haven&#8217;t attacked us, clamping down on civil liberties at home, ad nausium.  </p>
<p>How is that different from Sadam&#8217;s behavior?  We are no longer different in kind; only in degree &#8212; and in raw power.  Whatever the justification, I think that is a very dangerous and sad thing to happen to my country.</p>
<p>And, to bring this back to the matter at hand, playing imperial power while pretending that it doesn&#8217;t cost any sacrifice at home has eaten up every penny that Mr. Bush might have spent returning us to Earth&#8217;s moon and going on to Mars. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1977</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;Mr. Bush is demanding that the rest of the world conform to standards set solely by the United States.

What might those standards be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>Mr. Bush is demanding that the rest of the world conform to standards set solely by the United States.</p>
<p>What might those standards be?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I repeat:   

I make no apologies for my opinion of Mr. Bush, which I believe to be more-or-less accurate. History will tell. . . .

And, oh yes, Mr. Bush is demanding that the rest of the world conform to standards set solely by the United States.  How would you define an imperialist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat:   </p>
<p>I make no apologies for my opinion of Mr. Bush, which I believe to be more-or-less accurate. History will tell. . . .</p>
<p>And, oh yes, Mr. Bush is demanding that the rest of the world conform to standards set solely by the United States.  How would you define an imperialist?</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dogsbd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True you didn&#039;t call Bush any &quot;names&quot; but you did use: &quot;the single worse and most dangerous President&quot;, &quot;unmitigated disaster for our nation and for the world&quot;, &quot;replace a democracy with a religious government&quot;, and &quot;overseas jihad largely indistinguishable from those of our enemies&quot; in rapid succession. I was waiting for &quot;running dog imperialist lackey&quot; to come up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True you didn&#8217;t call Bush any &#8220;names&#8221; but you did use: &#8220;the single worse and most dangerous President&#8221;, &#8220;unmitigated disaster for our nation and for the world&#8221;, &#8220;replace a democracy with a religious government&#8221;, and &#8220;overseas jihad largely indistinguishable from those of our enemies&#8221; in rapid succession. I was waiting for &#8220;running dog imperialist lackey&#8221; to come up.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No spittle, Mr. Dogsbd.  Unlike many others on this site, I have called no one names and have been able to distinguish good policy from otherwise reprehensible behavior.  I make no apologies for my opinion of Mr. Bush, which I believe to be more-or-less accurate.  History will tell. . . .

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No spittle, Mr. Dogsbd.  Unlike many others on this site, I have called no one names and have been able to distinguish good policy from otherwise reprehensible behavior.  I make no apologies for my opinion of Mr. Bush, which I believe to be more-or-less accurate.  History will tell. . . .</p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dogsbd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clean that spittle off of your chin Donald.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clean that spittle off of your chin Donald.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 19:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did not vote for Mr. Bush and I personally believe that he is the single worse and most dangerous President our nation has seen in modern times.  However, I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Earl.  Mr. Bush may be close to an unmitigated disaster for our nation and for the world, but in this one area, he or his advisors have come up with what is unambiguously the correct policy.  I do and will oppose this man who would replace a democracy with a religious government executing an ideological overseas jihad largely indistinguishable from those of our enemies, but the _policy_ will receive my continued support.  The policy and the man are two different entities and it is important to distinguish one from the other.

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not vote for Mr. Bush and I personally believe that he is the single worse and most dangerous President our nation has seen in modern times.  However, I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Earl.  Mr. Bush may be close to an unmitigated disaster for our nation and for the world, but in this one area, he or his advisors have come up with what is unambiguously the correct policy.  I do and will oppose this man who would replace a democracy with a religious government executing an ideological overseas jihad largely indistinguishable from those of our enemies, but the _policy_ will receive my continued support.  The policy and the man are two different entities and it is important to distinguish one from the other.</p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Littrell</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Littrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can write to Congress and the President by using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.congress.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Congress.org&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can write to Congress and the President by using <a href="http://www.congress.org/" rel="nofollow">Congress.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Littrell</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Littrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2004 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can submit messages to the White House by using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/interactive/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White House Interactive&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s unlikely that they will publish your message, but it will let them know that people care about space and NASA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can submit messages to the White House by using <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/interactive/" rel="nofollow">White House Interactive</a>. It&#8217;s unlikely that they will publish your message, but it will let them know that people care about space and NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Rhian</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/04/election-aftermath/#comment-1969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Rhian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2004 06:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like Mr. Earl voted for the President because of the space initiative, that and just how snobbish and nasty the dems came off.  I can&#039;t speak for anyone else but I intend to write all my representatives and urge them to support it.  I&#039;ve gone so far as to start a new chapter for the National Space Society.  We&#039;ve waited 35 years, the time for waiting is over, it&#039;s time for action.  The great thing about the new vision is that it isn&#039;t &quot;lets go to the moon and then what?&quot; It&#039;s build as we go, stay where we have been.  This will allow us to advance further and further.  I support this initiative fully and hope those who opposed the president for other reasons will at least back him on this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Mr. Earl voted for the President because of the space initiative, that and just how snobbish and nasty the dems came off.  I can&#8217;t speak for anyone else but I intend to write all my representatives and urge them to support it.  I&#8217;ve gone so far as to start a new chapter for the National Space Society.  We&#8217;ve waited 35 years, the time for waiting is over, it&#8217;s time for action.  The great thing about the new vision is that it isn&#8217;t &#8220;lets go to the moon and then what?&#8221; It&#8217;s build as we go, stay where we have been.  This will allow us to advance further and further.  I support this initiative fully and hope those who opposed the president for other reasons will at least back him on this!</p>
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