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	<description>Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway...</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Dinkin</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/08/post-election-roundup/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Dinkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Federalist Space Agency might be a good way for the states to collude on Aerospace so they don&#039;t kill each other with incentives like the huge ones for the new Dell Factory. Personally, I would rather see the free for all of unbridled competition once $2T flow into tourism and exploration.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federalist Space Agency might be a good way for the states to collude on Aerospace so they don&#8217;t kill each other with incentives like the huge ones for the new Dell Factory. Personally, I would rather see the free for all of unbridled competition once $2T flow into tourism and exploration.</p>
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		<title>By: kert</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/08/post-election-roundup/#comment-1983</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Well the Space treaty states that no one can own real estate beyond earth.&quot;

Kinda beside the point but... arent geostationary slots a type of &quot;space real estate&quot; ? Somehow ITU can still regulate and allocate their use, and if im not mistaken its on &quot;first come, first serve&quot; principles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well the Space treaty states that no one can own real estate beyond earth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kinda beside the point but&#8230; arent geostationary slots a type of &#8220;space real estate&#8221; ? Somehow ITU can still regulate and allocate their use, and if im not mistaken its on &#8220;first come, first serve&#8221; principles.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill White</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;But if the State sponsers explorers, and those explores decided to mutiny and stay, and they begin to make use of that real estate, they might beable to claim ownership of it.&lt;/i&gt;

If it is likely that explorers or colonists will mutiny to throw off the shackles of a Terran bureacracy, why would any Terran bureacracy with an ounce of common sense pay hundreds of billions of dollars to fund settlers who will only rebel anyways?

Reminds me of some college kids:

&lt;i&gt;Mom, Dad, I despise everything you stand for and the way you have totally ruined your lives. Now send me five hundred dollars, okay?&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But if the State sponsers explorers, and those explores decided to mutiny and stay, and they begin to make use of that real estate, they might beable to claim ownership of it.</i></p>
<p>If it is likely that explorers or colonists will mutiny to throw off the shackles of a Terran bureacracy, why would any Terran bureacracy with an ounce of common sense pay hundreds of billions of dollars to fund settlers who will only rebel anyways?</p>
<p>Reminds me of some college kids:</p>
<p><i>Mom, Dad, I despise everything you stand for and the way you have totally ruined your lives. Now send me five hundred dollars, okay?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Corey Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/08/post-election-roundup/#comment-1981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Corey Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well the Space treaty states that no one can own real estate beyond earth.  So any type of state sponsered land grab is not possible. But if the State sponsers explorers, and those explores decided to mutiny and stay, and they begin to make use of that real estate, they might beable to claim ownership of it. Since they broke ties to the sponsoring government they would be a rogue state. 

The UN gonna send troops to take those people back? Nope, I see it akin to those people who choose to live on a boat in international waters. the UN does nothing to those people and unless they begin to commit piracy.

Though on Dinkin&#039;s thought, why not go one step further and create a Federalist Space Agency, where individual states contribute reasources to it? Hmm, I&#039;m liking this idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the Space treaty states that no one can own real estate beyond earth.  So any type of state sponsered land grab is not possible. But if the State sponsers explorers, and those explores decided to mutiny and stay, and they begin to make use of that real estate, they might beable to claim ownership of it. Since they broke ties to the sponsoring government they would be a rogue state. </p>
<p>The UN gonna send troops to take those people back? Nope, I see it akin to those people who choose to live on a boat in international waters. the UN does nothing to those people and unless they begin to commit piracy.</p>
<p>Though on Dinkin&#8217;s thought, why not go one step further and create a Federalist Space Agency, where individual states contribute reasources to it? Hmm, I&#8217;m liking this idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill White</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/08/post-election-roundup/#comment-1980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff, I respectfully request a thread on Michael Huang&#039;s article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I respectfully request a thread on Michael Huang&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill White</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/11/08/post-election-roundup/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taylor Dinerman&#039;s piece (combined with Jeff Foust&#039;s brief editorial summary found above) could easily flow into support for a program that made sweeping grants of celestial real estate to venturesome space settlers. Personally, I think land grant programs are a terrific idea.

However, unlike the situation President Lincoln faced, neither the Moon nor Mars nor the NEOs have been acknowledged as being within the perview of the United States government to give away. If Lincoln wanted to initiate a policy that eventually led to Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise looking &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104231&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Far and Away&lt;/a&gt; to free land and a new start in Oklahoma, Lincoln had the advantage of already owning Oklahoma.

As Taylor Dinerman previously noted (brilliantly, may I add) the Moon may well come to be a late 21st or 22nd century analouge to the British base at Gibraltar during the Age of Sail. Therefore, should we be sanguine and expect France, Russia and China to sit back and passively allow Americans to homestead celestial real estate?

Many centuries ago, Machiavelli wrote that sending out civilian settlers (colonists) is a far less expensive and a far more effective means for a Prince to control distant territories than sending a professional military.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taylor Dinerman&#8217;s piece (combined with Jeff Foust&#8217;s brief editorial summary found above) could easily flow into support for a program that made sweeping grants of celestial real estate to venturesome space settlers. Personally, I think land grant programs are a terrific idea.</p>
<p>However, unlike the situation President Lincoln faced, neither the Moon nor Mars nor the NEOs have been acknowledged as being within the perview of the United States government to give away. If Lincoln wanted to initiate a policy that eventually led to Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise looking <a HREF="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104231" rel="nofollow">Far and Away</a> to free land and a new start in Oklahoma, Lincoln had the advantage of already owning Oklahoma.</p>
<p>As Taylor Dinerman previously noted (brilliantly, may I add) the Moon may well come to be a late 21st or 22nd century analouge to the British base at Gibraltar during the Age of Sail. Therefore, should we be sanguine and expect France, Russia and China to sit back and passively allow Americans to homestead celestial real estate?</p>
<p>Many centuries ago, Machiavelli wrote that sending out civilian settlers (colonists) is a far less expensive and a far more effective means for a Prince to control distant territories than sending a professional military.</p>
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