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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&gt;O&#039;Keefe gets some of the blame for creating &quot;schedule pressure&quot; before the launch of Columbia.


There always has been and I imagine there always will be a certain amount of &quot;schedule pressure&quot; with respect to spaceflight, manned or unmanned. Did O&#039;Keefe apply &quot;out of the ordinary&quot; pressure? 

Evidently the CAIB decided the answer was no, he did not.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>>O&#8217;Keefe gets some of the blame for creating &#8220;schedule pressure&#8221; before the launch of Columbia.</p>
<p>There always has been and I imagine there always will be a certain amount of &#8220;schedule pressure&#8221; with respect to spaceflight, manned or unmanned. Did O&#8217;Keefe apply &#8220;out of the ordinary&#8221; pressure? </p>
<p>Evidently the CAIB decided the answer was no, he did not.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Charab</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 20:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anybody here actually READ what I wrote before engaging in petty he did/he didn&#039;t sniping?

From pages 131-132 of the CAIB report, Volume 1:

&quot;Employees attributed the Node 2 launch date to the new Administrator, Sean O&#039;Keefe, who was appointed to execute a Space Station management plan he had proposed as Deputy Director of the White House Office of Management and Budget. They understood the scrutiny that NASA, the new Administrator, and the Space Station Program were under, but now it seemed to some that budget and schedule were of paramount concern. As one employee reflected:

&#039;I guess my frustration was... I know the importance of showing that you... manage your budget and that&#039;s an important impression to make to Congress so you can continue the future of the agency, but to a lot of people, February 19th just seemed like an arbitrary date... It doesn&#039;t make sense to me why at all costs we were marching to this date.&#039;

The importance of this date was stressed from the very top. The Space Shuttle and Space Station Program Managers briefed the new NASA Administrator monthly on the status of their programs, and a significant part of those briefings was the days of margin remaining in the schedule to the launch of Node 2 - still well over a year away. The Node 2 schedule margin typically accounted for more than half of the briefing slides.

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These charts illustrate that both the Space Shuttle and Space Station Programs were being managed to a particular launch date - February 19, 2004. Days of margin in that schedule were one of the principle metrics by which both programs came to be judged. NASA Headquarters stressed the importance of this date in other ways. A screen saver (see Figure 6.2-3) was mailed to managers in NASA&#039;s human spaceflight program that depicted a clock counting down to February 19, 2004 - U.S. Core Complete.&quot;

Translation: O&#039;Keefe gets some of the blame for creating &quot;schedule pressure&quot; before the launch of Columbia.  He is not entirely blameless.  Nor is he entirely culpable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anybody here actually READ what I wrote before engaging in petty he did/he didn&#8217;t sniping?</p>
<p>From pages 131-132 of the CAIB report, Volume 1:</p>
<p>&#8220;Employees attributed the Node 2 launch date to the new Administrator, Sean O&#8217;Keefe, who was appointed to execute a Space Station management plan he had proposed as Deputy Director of the White House Office of Management and Budget. They understood the scrutiny that NASA, the new Administrator, and the Space Station Program were under, but now it seemed to some that budget and schedule were of paramount concern. As one employee reflected:</p>
<p>&#8216;I guess my frustration was&#8230; I know the importance of showing that you&#8230; manage your budget and that&#8217;s an important impression to make to Congress so you can continue the future of the agency, but to a lot of people, February 19th just seemed like an arbitrary date&#8230; It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me why at all costs we were marching to this date.&#8217;</p>
<p>The importance of this date was stressed from the very top. The Space Shuttle and Space Station Program Managers briefed the new NASA Administrator monthly on the status of their programs, and a significant part of those briefings was the days of margin remaining in the schedule to the launch of Node 2 &#8211; still well over a year away. The Node 2 schedule margin typically accounted for more than half of the briefing slides.</p>
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<p>These charts illustrate that both the Space Shuttle and Space Station Programs were being managed to a particular launch date &#8211; February 19, 2004. Days of margin in that schedule were one of the principle metrics by which both programs came to be judged. NASA Headquarters stressed the importance of this date in other ways. A screen saver (see Figure 6.2-3) was mailed to managers in NASA&#8217;s human spaceflight program that depicted a clock counting down to February 19, 2004 &#8211; U.S. Core Complete.&#8221;</p>
<p>Translation: O&#8217;Keefe gets some of the blame for creating &#8220;schedule pressure&#8221; before the launch of Columbia.  He is not entirely blameless.  Nor is he entirely culpable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your 20/20 hindsight is working fine Oler, but you first say O&#039;Keefe was unaware anything was amiss (even with the &quot;big deal&quot; the media made, ahem) and then you expend a great deal of of virtual ink detailing what O&#039;Keefe should have done about the very problem you say he didn&#039;t know about.

Which is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your 20/20 hindsight is working fine Oler, but you first say O&#8217;Keefe was unaware anything was amiss (even with the &#8220;big deal&#8221; the media made, ahem) and then you expend a great deal of of virtual ink detailing what O&#8217;Keefe should have done about the very problem you say he didn&#8217;t know about.</p>
<p>Which is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ones who were experts said &quot;it will be OK&quot;, should O&#039;Keefe have said &quot;You&#039;re wrong!&quot;? 

Posted by Dogsbd at December 14, 2004 08:03 AM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ones who were experts said &#8220;it will be OK&#8221;, should O&#8217;Keefe have said &#8220;You&#8217;re wrong!&#8221;? </p>
<p>Posted by Dogsbd at December 14, 2004 08:03 AM</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;&gt; At launch the media makes a big deal of a big piece coming off the external tank and hitting the orbiter.


Except the media did no such thing, it was barely mentioned. And if they had made a big deal, O&#039;Keefe was no expert in foam/orbiter contact. The ones who were experts said &quot;it will be OK&quot;, should O&#039;Keefe have said &quot;You&#039;re wrong!&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>> At launch the media makes a big deal of a big piece coming off the external tank and hitting the orbiter.</p>
<p>Except the media did no such thing, it was barely mentioned. And if they had made a big deal, O&#8217;Keefe was no expert in foam/orbiter contact. The ones who were experts said &#8220;it will be OK&#8221;, should O&#8217;Keefe have said &#8220;You&#8217;re wrong!&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 05:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[O’Keefe didn’t have time to evaluate all of NASA. The report for ISS came out shortly before the Columbia accident. He would have depended mostly on his managers’ evaluations and procedures. 

Posted by John Malkin at December 13, 2004 03:07]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O’Keefe didn’t have time to evaluate all of NASA. The report for ISS came out shortly before the Columbia accident. He would have depended mostly on his managers’ evaluations and procedures. </p>
<p>Posted by John Malkin at December 13, 2004 03:07</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Dogsbd,

Or, maybe we&#039;re all Americans (or even humans) at heart.  I try to keep my non-space politics out of my space politics.

Actually, to break the rule I just stated, in many ways I am a natural Republican.  I&#039;m upper middle class (by definition, since I can afford to live in the nation&#039;s second most expensive city), I own my home, I run a personal business, et cetera.  If the Republicans would lose the social agenda and the &quot;Imperial&quot; forign policy, and stick to their economic agenda, I might even vote for one someoday.  

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dogsbd,</p>
<p>Or, maybe we&#8217;re all Americans (or even humans) at heart.  I try to keep my non-space politics out of my space politics.</p>
<p>Actually, to break the rule I just stated, in many ways I am a natural Republican.  I&#8217;m upper middle class (by definition, since I can afford to live in the nation&#8217;s second most expensive city), I own my home, I run a personal business, et cetera.  If the Republicans would lose the social agenda and the &#8220;Imperial&#8221; forign policy, and stick to their economic agenda, I might even vote for one someoday.  </p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: mrearl</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever you think of the VSE one would have to admit that O&#039;Keefe able to guide NASA through what could have been disastrous time for manned space flight.  He was able to turn a tragedy into a new mandate for manned exploration of the solar system thru some masterful political infighting.  
My one concern is the next administrator will not have the president&#039;s ear the way O&#039;Keefe dose.   I think that history will show that O&#039;Keefe was second only to James Webb in his influence on NASA’s future direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you think of the VSE one would have to admit that O&#8217;Keefe able to guide NASA through what could have been disastrous time for manned space flight.  He was able to turn a tragedy into a new mandate for manned exploration of the solar system thru some masterful political infighting.<br />
My one concern is the next administrator will not have the president&#8217;s ear the way O&#8217;Keefe dose.   I think that history will show that O&#8217;Keefe was second only to James Webb in his influence on NASA’s future direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogsbd</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt; A self-described &quot;bean counter&quot; with vision is exactly what NASA needs, and I am saddened to see him go.


I find myself in agreement with you more and more, maybe I really am a Democrat at heart? ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> A self-described &#8220;bean counter&#8221; with vision is exactly what NASA needs, and I am saddened to see him go.</p>
<p>I find myself in agreement with you more and more, maybe I really am a Democrat at heart? <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert Oler, 

I have to say that I agree that you&#039;re not being fair here.  As you know, I am no friend of the Bush Administration, but, much to my surprise, I think Mr. O&#039;Keefe has been a pretty decent administratior -- though not a great one -- not least because of any input he had in the &quot;pay-as-you-go&quot; exploration strategy.  A self-described &quot;bean counter&quot; with vision is exactly what NASA needs, and I am saddened to see him go.  

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Oler, </p>
<p>I have to say that I agree that you&#8217;re not being fair here.  As you know, I am no friend of the Bush Administration, but, much to my surprise, I think Mr. O&#8217;Keefe has been a pretty decent administratior &#8212; though not a great one &#8212; not least because of any input he had in the &#8220;pay-as-you-go&#8221; exploration strategy.  A self-described &#8220;bean counter&#8221; with vision is exactly what NASA needs, and I am saddened to see him go.  </p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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