Comments on: Handicapping the NASA administrator race http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: TORO http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2277 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:50:55 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2277 Yes, Dogsbd, in that instance, I did; I took some “liberty”. To do so in some other “we are Borg” nations would get you shot.

]]> By: Dogsbd http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2276 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:41:06 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2276 Toro:>>O’Keefe stated yesterday in his interview with Frank Sietzen Jr. a lack of consensus does not bother him. “No, that’s fine. It’s part of the deliberative democratic process.” You can’t solve everyone’s problems. Forget that CAIB recommendation (ASAP also after Challenger).

You obviously read whatever you like into others comments.

]]> By: Toro http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2275 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:12:49 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2275 Look more closely at what Rutan may have said. You can have multiple companies make the rocket, and multiple companies make the transport module. Then if one rocket fails, their company gets a pink slip for a while. Hopefully the bail-out system in the module keeps the passengers alive, or maybe that company gets a pink slip for a while as well. In the meantime, the other rocket and module companies are still in business, all working together…well the low bidders get most of the market, but business continues to and from LEO. No more 2 – 3 year shutdowns. Don Corleone would be pleased. Maybe even the less extreme sanctity of lifers, also the kantians, aristotilians, and most importantly, the ever-happy utilitarians. O’Keefe stated yesterday in his interview with Frank Sietzen Jr. a lack of consensus does not bother him. “No, that’s fine. It’s part of the deliberative democratic process.” You can’t solve everyone’s problems. Forget that CAIB recommendation (ASAP also after Challenger). And really, what bureaucrat even needs congress these days anyway. Just deliberately by-pass their concensus.

]]> By: Bill White http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2274 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:46:13 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2274 >>The key to human space flight, believe it or not, is still just getting up and down from Earth orbit, safely and cheaply

Mmmmm, sounds a lot like Spiral 1-2 of the CEV to me.

=IF= Rutan, Musk and fellow travellers get the CEV contract you are probably correct.

=IF= Boeing gets the CEV contract and uses Delta IVH for CEV, I fear the opposite.

]]> By: Dogsbd http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2273 Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:13:40 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2273 >>The key to human space flight, believe it or not, is still just getting up and down from Earth orbit, safely and cheaply

Mmmmm, sounds a lot like Spiral 1-2 of the CEV to me.

]]> By: TORO http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2272 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:43:22 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2272 Apollo 1 certainly affected schedule, as the godfather knows. But one must be clear regarding “future spacecraft”. Those going from orbit to planetary surfaces need to be “simple” / only cargo for the purpose of landing and/or taking off the human. But travel between planets is not so critical. In those cases more cargo may mean more redundancy and contigency, like what really saved Apollo 13.
Focusing now on increasing reliability in Earth to LEO and back human transfer will help Mars up and down transfer in the future. The key to human space flight, believe it or not, is still just getting up and down from Earth orbit, safely and cheaply. Forget the moon and Mars for a while, it will all fall in place. Forget the existing Apollo schedule rush culture. Develop getting to and from LEO cheap and much safer. It will provide the rosetta stone both now and later.

]]> By: John Malkin http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2271 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:46:10 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2271 My bet is on Craig Steidle for Administrator.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64600-2004Dec14.html?sub=new (free registration required)

]]> By: John Malkin http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2270 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:10:32 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2270 How about Apollo 1? It had an impact on the schedule. The shuttle is extremely complex compared to the Apollo spacecraft which is a good reason to keep future spacecraft as simple as possible. Any new vehicle should carry only people and assume it will dock with something else to continue the mission. Single vehicle and single mission do not go together and limits mission parameters.

We also had the space race which I’m sure had an impact on the schedule.

]]> By: Paul Dietz http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2269 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:19:50 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2269 Yes, the statement was that the goals should weather changes of presidents, and the like. Also, everyone should get a pony.

]]> By: Anthony Young http://www.spacepolitics.com/2004/12/14/handicapping-the-nasa-administrator-race/#comment-2268 Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:41:29 +0000 http://www.districtofbaseball.com/spacepolitics/?p=392#comment-2268 If you remember, the Vision for Space Exploration issued by the President’s Commission stated the long term goals outlined should weather presidents, Congresses and, I would guess, NASA Administrators. So, O’Keefe’s leaving should only be a bump in the road. We hope.

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