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		<title>By: AlexanderSchmitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankssoverymuchforthisgreatwebsite.AlexanderSchmitz.f939fjwkwqllq.</p>
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		<title>By: TORO</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2005/02/04/debating-hubble/#comment-2431</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China&#039;s Shenzhou has improved upon the Soyuz design they bought from the broke Ruskies. The destructive tests performed on Shenzhou make it 400 times safer than the space shuttle. 

Why don&#039;t we simply outsourse sending Americans to and from LEO to China, like all other manufacturing in this nation?  China builds factories, and we build Mcburgers and storemarts. Who even talks about controlling production cost in America any more?  

It is embarrasing that China has a human transport 400 times safer than the space shuttle.  But to keep Doo Doo bird going, we could launch Americans in Shenzhou to the space station and then send up the space shuttle unmanned.  Then the Americans could transfer into the shuttle up in orbit and go repair Hubble using the jalopy. Then they could take jalopy back to the space station, and transfer back to Shenzhou to land back on Earth. Why can&#039;t we walk away from the jalopy?

We do not need &quot;return to flight&quot;. What we need is return to &quot;success&quot;.  NASA needs to re-read the Apollo 13 reports to understand success and failure. The space station is a bad design, but its main problem along with hubble is we have a jack of all trades master of nothing jalopy to service them.  There are options, but this nation needs a new human transport to and from LEO that is no more than the ski lift chair or gondola, not a mountain crawler, and we have to assume the chair or gondola will break occasionally so we need to crash dummy test the survival systems as the shuttle did not but as Soyuz and now Shenzhou have done.  

This nation is at least a decade behind China regarding humans in space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China&#8217;s Shenzhou has improved upon the Soyuz design they bought from the broke Ruskies. The destructive tests performed on Shenzhou make it 400 times safer than the space shuttle. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we simply outsourse sending Americans to and from LEO to China, like all other manufacturing in this nation?  China builds factories, and we build Mcburgers and storemarts. Who even talks about controlling production cost in America any more?  </p>
<p>It is embarrasing that China has a human transport 400 times safer than the space shuttle.  But to keep Doo Doo bird going, we could launch Americans in Shenzhou to the space station and then send up the space shuttle unmanned.  Then the Americans could transfer into the shuttle up in orbit and go repair Hubble using the jalopy. Then they could take jalopy back to the space station, and transfer back to Shenzhou to land back on Earth. Why can&#8217;t we walk away from the jalopy?</p>
<p>We do not need &#8220;return to flight&#8221;. What we need is return to &#8220;success&#8221;.  NASA needs to re-read the Apollo 13 reports to understand success and failure. The space station is a bad design, but its main problem along with hubble is we have a jack of all trades master of nothing jalopy to service them.  There are options, but this nation needs a new human transport to and from LEO that is no more than the ski lift chair or gondola, not a mountain crawler, and we have to assume the chair or gondola will break occasionally so we need to crash dummy test the survival systems as the shuttle did not but as Soyuz and now Shenzhou have done.  </p>
<p>This nation is at least a decade behind China regarding humans in space.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2005/02/04/debating-hubble/#comment-2430</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2005 06:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okeefe was suppose to fix the accounting but there is nothing new here.  Whatever &quot;NASA&quot; wants to do cost almost nothing (at least at the start) what they do not want to do cost a hugh amount of dollars.

Its been that way forever and it continues to be that way.  NASA has a new cash cow with RTM and it doesnt want anything to get in its way....Oink Oink.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okeefe was suppose to fix the accounting but there is nothing new here.  Whatever &#8220;NASA&#8221; wants to do cost almost nothing (at least at the start) what they do not want to do cost a hugh amount of dollars.</p>
<p>Its been that way forever and it continues to be that way.  NASA has a new cash cow with RTM and it doesnt want anything to get in its way&#8230;.Oink Oink.</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dietz</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2005/02/04/debating-hubble/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dietz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If they look into the accounting, I think they&#039;re going to find that the old number ($100 M) didn&#039;t make a lot of sense.  On the other hand, if the new number includes reasoning of the form &#039;as soon as STS shuts down, we can fire all these people, so keeping it around for another launch costs this much in extra salary&#039; then that might concern some legislators whose constituents stand to lose their jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they look into the accounting, I think they&#8217;re going to find that the old number ($100 M) didn&#8217;t make a lot of sense.  On the other hand, if the new number includes reasoning of the form &#8216;as soon as STS shuts down, we can fire all these people, so keeping it around for another launch costs this much in extra salary&#8217; then that might concern some legislators whose constituents stand to lose their jobs.</p>
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