What does congress do these days??? They have yet to debate the Bushagain vision.

The vision for NASA should be quite simple: control spending, continue to control spending every year with no increase, and build a cargoless glamourless commuter car with an escape system or two (Apollo had a seat belt – why not add the air bag???) to LEO and back.

Once NASA can get humans to and from LEO, or if the rocket blows and the air bag deploys and they live say 4,999/5000 times, and production cost is controlled, and preflight review eliminated, then return to moon and go to Mars will simply fall in place. Humans to Mars and back about 2050 at a fixed or reduced budget. That’s the ticket.

And maybe with Mars in 2050 a more humble, advertising plastered NASA can achieve “another small step for humanity, and one very LARGE step for a woman!”.

We need to start thinking a little more realistically about risk and spaceflight. It isn’t going to be risk-free anytime soon, and the astronauts who volunteer know what they’re getting into. The American Public needs to be willing to let the astronaut corps take those risks if we are to continue to get anything out of our 40 years of investment in the national space program. If we let the Hubble telescope decay and die because we’re afraid to send volunteers to repair it, we tell the nation and the world that we’re too cowardly to continue to be involved in space exploration.

The incremental cost of a Shuttle mission, even post Columbia, is relatively low, and I don’t think the risk involved is beyond what we should be taking in spaceflight, especially with astronauts who have volunteered. It would buy a lot of political good will. It would also set a terrible precedent that every other scientist could use to defend their project against what they see as this evil Mars boondoggle.

Still, I think I would support a human mission. A robot mission is a complete waste of money that should be spent on the VSE.

— Donald

One the flipside of it when we are done with the shuttles we will have invested not only the design, build, launch, refurbishment, retrofit or upgrade dollars only to mothball them to a museum. I for one would love to see them but is it the right thing to do when so much cash has been utlized to making them fly.