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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2005/10/28/nasa-authorization-update/#comment-5997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the rare instances where I wholeheartedly agree with Greg.  As someone who fully supported, and in my minor way helped finance, the X-Prize, and was immensely impressed by Scaled Composite’s achievement, I found Mr. Rutan&#039;s NASA bashing after winning the X-Prize poor sportsmanlike and dishonest.  He should have the grace to publicly recognize that he did not do this in a vacuum and had a lot of government-funded technology and experience behind him -- not least through some of his own company&#039;s contracts.

And, while we&#039;re on the subject two-timing entrepreneurs, I just belatedly read in AvWeek that the forthright defendent of multi-source contracting, SpaceX Corporation, has accepted a presumably sole-source contract for &quot;flight text&quot; of the Falcon-9.  Isn&#039;t this exactly the sort of contract he complained about Kistler getting, thereby helping to remove the latter company from competition?

-- Donald

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the rare instances where I wholeheartedly agree with Greg.  As someone who fully supported, and in my minor way helped finance, the X-Prize, and was immensely impressed by Scaled Composite’s achievement, I found Mr. Rutan&#8217;s NASA bashing after winning the X-Prize poor sportsmanlike and dishonest.  He should have the grace to publicly recognize that he did not do this in a vacuum and had a lot of government-funded technology and experience behind him &#8212; not least through some of his own company&#8217;s contracts.</p>
<p>And, while we&#8217;re on the subject two-timing entrepreneurs, I just belatedly read in AvWeek that the forthright defendent of multi-source contracting, SpaceX Corporation, has accepted a presumably sole-source contract for &#8220;flight text&#8221; of the Falcon-9.  Isn&#8217;t this exactly the sort of contract he complained about Kistler getting, thereby helping to remove the latter company from competition?</p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Kuperberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Kuperberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dwayne Day: &lt;i&gt;However, I am generally unhappy and unimpressed about the comments section on SpacePolitics.com because of the lack of civility and the overall staleness of the discussion here. This is not a forum worth participating in, in my opinion.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s tedious when people wander into a forum only to drip contempt onto it.  The only way to encourage civility is to set a good example.  (As in fact Jeff Foust has done.  His blog is all the better for it.)

That said, I agree that Burt Rutan&#039;s comparison is apples and oranges, and at any meaningful level, a wild exaggeration.  My hat is off to Rutan and Scaled Composites for their achievements, which however are tainted by bragging.  In this case, not only bragging, but also ingratitude, given how much praise and wisdom they got from NASA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dwayne Day: <i>However, I am generally unhappy and unimpressed about the comments section on SpacePolitics.com because of the lack of civility and the overall staleness of the discussion here. This is not a forum worth participating in, in my opinion.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s tedious when people wander into a forum only to drip contempt onto it.  The only way to encourage civility is to set a good example.  (As in fact Jeff Foust has done.  His blog is all the better for it.)</p>
<p>That said, I agree that Burt Rutan&#8217;s comparison is apples and oranges, and at any meaningful level, a wild exaggeration.  My hat is off to Rutan and Scaled Composites for their achievements, which however are tainted by bragging.  In this case, not only bragging, but also ingratitude, given how much praise and wisdom they got from NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Day, I look forward to seeing your SS1 photos.

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Day, I look forward to seeing your SS1 photos.</p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne A. Day</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwayne A. Day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;SFF still has operating bulletin boards, including the flamish Space Arena board.&quot;

I stand corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SFF still has operating bulletin boards, including the flamish Space Arena board.&#8221;</p>
<p>I stand corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Dietz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dietz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way OT, but...

&lt;i&gt;I read somewhere that when the Space Frontier Foundation closed down its bulletin boards, some of the regulars migrated over here to engage in arguments that they have been conducting for years.&lt;/i&gt;

SFF still has operating bulletin boards, including the flamish Space Arena board.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way OT, but&#8230;</p>
<p><i>I read somewhere that when the Space Frontier Foundation closed down its bulletin boards, some of the regulars migrated over here to engage in arguments that they have been conducting for years.</i></p>
<p>SFF still has operating bulletin boards, including the flamish Space Arena board.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne A. Day</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwayne A. Day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Robertson wrote:
&quot;I don&#039;t believe Dwayne said that he did not like the SS1.&quot;

Correct.  I _didn&#039;t_ say that.  In fact, an upcoming issue of Spaceflight should contain some of my excellent (imho) photographs of SS1 in the Smithsonian (it&#039;s amazing what you can do with an expensive camera, expensive film, and a quickie photography class).  I viewed that earlier comment as simply another example of the poor state of discourse in this comments section.  I&#039;d enjoy a civil, spirited, engaging discussion of space issues, but we rarely find it on the web.  Even when it stays relatively civil, it often becomes pointless.  We all know where certain people stand on the issues and after observing them express their opinions for half a decade or more, I figure that I&#039;m not going to learn anything from them just as I won&#039;t learn anything by pulling the string on a talking doll.  (I read somewhere that when the Space Frontier Foundation closed down its bulletin boards, some of the regulars migrated over here to engage in arguments that they have been conducting for years.  If true, it hasn&#039;t helped this place.  All I can say is that I&#039;ve encountered a lot of people in space discussion groups that I have no desire to meet in person--which is a real shame, because some of the more thoughtful people I know, such as Jonathan McDowell and Jeff Foust, were ones I first encountered via electrons.)

My colleague Mr. Smith wrote:
&quot;I should point out that DoD is, in fact, going to take heavy cuts in its space budget due to Iraq and disaster relief.&quot;

I would argue that this is not due to Iraq and disaster relief.  Those might be contributors, but DoD space has put itself into this position of its own accord.  Their problems with numerous big ticket spacecraft that have been under development for a decade or so (SBIRS, AEHF, etc.) has created much skepticism in Congress that they should be allowed to start new aggressive development programs (T-Sat, Space Radar, etc.).  In addition, I think one could argue that it has not simply been the management, but also the way DoD treated its critics in Congress that hurt them.  The infamous comment by a senior Air Force general about congressional criticism of the acquisition problem did not make them any friends.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the space authorization bill that was the original topic here.  Alas, such is the web...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Robertson wrote:<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t believe Dwayne said that he did not like the SS1.&#8221;</p>
<p>Correct.  I _didn&#8217;t_ say that.  In fact, an upcoming issue of Spaceflight should contain some of my excellent (imho) photographs of SS1 in the Smithsonian (it&#8217;s amazing what you can do with an expensive camera, expensive film, and a quickie photography class).  I viewed that earlier comment as simply another example of the poor state of discourse in this comments section.  I&#8217;d enjoy a civil, spirited, engaging discussion of space issues, but we rarely find it on the web.  Even when it stays relatively civil, it often becomes pointless.  We all know where certain people stand on the issues and after observing them express their opinions for half a decade or more, I figure that I&#8217;m not going to learn anything from them just as I won&#8217;t learn anything by pulling the string on a talking doll.  (I read somewhere that when the Space Frontier Foundation closed down its bulletin boards, some of the regulars migrated over here to engage in arguments that they have been conducting for years.  If true, it hasn&#8217;t helped this place.  All I can say is that I&#8217;ve encountered a lot of people in space discussion groups that I have no desire to meet in person&#8211;which is a real shame, because some of the more thoughtful people I know, such as Jonathan McDowell and Jeff Foust, were ones I first encountered via electrons.)</p>
<p>My colleague Mr. Smith wrote:<br />
&#8220;I should point out that DoD is, in fact, going to take heavy cuts in its space budget due to Iraq and disaster relief.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would argue that this is not due to Iraq and disaster relief.  Those might be contributors, but DoD space has put itself into this position of its own accord.  Their problems with numerous big ticket spacecraft that have been under development for a decade or so (SBIRS, AEHF, etc.) has created much skepticism in Congress that they should be allowed to start new aggressive development programs (T-Sat, Space Radar, etc.).  In addition, I think one could argue that it has not simply been the management, but also the way DoD treated its critics in Congress that hurt them.  The infamous comment by a senior Air Force general about congressional criticism of the acquisition problem did not make them any friends.</p>
<p>Of course, none of this has anything to do with the space authorization bill that was the original topic here.  Alas, such is the web&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dawyne,

I fully concur with your assessment of the posts on this otherwise excellent website provided by Jeff Foust. I find most blogs, particularly those dealing with politics, are generally useless because of a lack of civility or critical thought. This one often goes there, despite the very serious nature of the website and careful consideration of topics by Dr. Foust.

With that aside, I should point out that DoD is, in fact, going to take heavy cuts in its space budget due to Iraq and disaster relief. The programs in question cannot be discussed here, but the fact that the cuts will occur is public knowledge, thanks to the Congressional tendency to talk too much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawyne,</p>
<p>I fully concur with your assessment of the posts on this otherwise excellent website provided by Jeff Foust. I find most blogs, particularly those dealing with politics, are generally useless because of a lack of civility or critical thought. This one often goes there, despite the very serious nature of the website and careful consideration of topics by Dr. Foust.</p>
<p>With that aside, I should point out that DoD is, in fact, going to take heavy cuts in its space budget due to Iraq and disaster relief. The programs in question cannot be discussed here, but the fact that the cuts will occur is public knowledge, thanks to the Congressional tendency to talk too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 18:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, I don&#039;t believe Dwayne said that he did not like the SS1.  He only said that comparing the SS1 directly to the X-15 was inappropriate.  

Dwayne, as usual I liked your comments and generally agreed with them.

&lt;i&gt;The X-15 program was doing something entirely new and unproven. The SS1 program utilized the knowledge gained from the X-15 program, as well as other high speed and rocket research programs.&lt;/i&gt;

As I have consistantly argued, I think this points out the historic roles -- and I would say the proper roles -- of government and private development.  Any commercial vehicles supplying the Space Station will be riding the coat tails of prior NASA and Air Force efforts, including the Shuttle. 

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I don&#8217;t believe Dwayne said that he did not like the SS1.  He only said that comparing the SS1 directly to the X-15 was inappropriate.  </p>
<p>Dwayne, as usual I liked your comments and generally agreed with them.</p>
<p><i>The X-15 program was doing something entirely new and unproven. The SS1 program utilized the knowledge gained from the X-15 program, as well as other high speed and rocket research programs.</i></p>
<p>As I have consistantly argued, I think this points out the historic roles &#8212; and I would say the proper roles &#8212; of government and private development.  Any commercial vehicles supplying the Space Station will be riding the coat tails of prior NASA and Air Force efforts, including the Shuttle. </p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;
Well, the Soyuz fatalities were 34 years ago
&lt;/i&gt;
Years matter less than flights; Soyuz&#039; extremely low flight rate masks that pretty well. It&#039;s been 34 years but only 84 flights since the last Soyuz fatality, while the shuttle had 87 flights in between its two accidents.
&lt;i&gt;
especially considering that the dangers that caused both Soyuz accidents have been long since bred out
&lt;/i&gt;
I disagree. The depressurization problem on the most recent Soyuz entry shows that they don&#039;t have that problem under control. And the &lt;b&gt;root&lt;/b&gt; cause of the Soyuz 11 accident (the jettison of the orbital/propulsion modules from the descent module) remains a design feature of Soyuz even though it caused two other close calls (Soyuz 5 and TM-5).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><br />
Well, the Soyuz fatalities were 34 years ago<br />
</i><br />
Years matter less than flights; Soyuz&#8217; extremely low flight rate masks that pretty well. It&#8217;s been 34 years but only 84 flights since the last Soyuz fatality, while the shuttle had 87 flights in between its two accidents.<br />
<i><br />
especially considering that the dangers that caused both Soyuz accidents have been long since bred out<br />
</i><br />
I disagree. The depressurization problem on the most recent Soyuz entry shows that they don&#8217;t have that problem under control. And the <b>root</b> cause of the Soyuz 11 accident (the jettison of the orbital/propulsion modules from the descent module) remains a design feature of Soyuz even though it caused two other close calls (Soyuz 5 and TM-5).</p>
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		<title>By: David Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Davenport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does a space capsule need to be really safe?

It needs an emergency escape system available during descent as well as ascent. A reserve parachute, ejection seats, ejectable escape pod within the capsule ... something like that.

Haven&#039;t heard that the proposed Steroid Capsule will have any such safety equipment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does a space capsule need to be really safe?</p>
<p>It needs an emergency escape system available during descent as well as ascent. A reserve parachute, ejection seats, ejectable escape pod within the capsule &#8230; something like that.</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t heard that the proposed Steroid Capsule will have any such safety equipment.</p>
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