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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6562</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; Co-operating in space may be what is needed to
&gt; co-operate on earth.

The track record so far says it&#039;s the other way around: cooperation in space does not necessarily lead to cooperation on Earth (Apollo-Soyuz didn&#039;t keep the Soviets from invading Afghanistan, or stationing SS-20s in Europe) while lack of cooperation on Earth hinders cooperation in space (Iran-Syria nonproliferation).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> Co-operating in space may be what is needed to<br />
> co-operate on earth.</p>
<p>The track record so far says it&#8217;s the other way around: cooperation in space does not necessarily lead to cooperation on Earth (Apollo-Soyuz didn&#8217;t keep the Soviets from invading Afghanistan, or stationing SS-20s in Europe) while lack of cooperation on Earth hinders cooperation in space (Iran-Syria nonproliferation).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Co-operating in space may be what is needed to co-operate on earth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Co-operating in space may be what is needed to co-operate on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6560</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;
A universal docking mechanism between Chinese/US/Russia/ISS manned spacecraft could prove very valuable in an emergency.
&lt;/i&gt;

The US and Russia already have such a docking mechanism on ISS (APAS), so all China has to do is buy the things from RSC Energia like NASA, Rockwell, and Boeing have done. There&#039;s no need to &quot;coddle&quot; them.]]></description>
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A universal docking mechanism between Chinese/US/Russia/ISS manned spacecraft could prove very valuable in an emergency.<br />
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<p>The US and Russia already have such a docking mechanism on ISS (APAS), so all China has to do is buy the things from RSC Energia like NASA, Rockwell, and Boeing have done. There&#8217;s no need to &#8220;coddle&#8221; them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are some pragmatic benefits to space cooperation that can be argued from realist reasons rather than symbolic cooperation for political points.

A universal docking mechanism between Chinese/US/Russia/ISS manned spacecraft could prove very valuable in an emergency.  The Navy&#039;s submersible DSRV had a US/Soviet docking port that allowed it to be able to rescue any submarine.  I don&#039;t think that signaled that we liked the Soviets anymore, it was simply an action to protect submariners&#039; lives.  

Would a similar space docking port be acceptible for reasons other than coddling China?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some pragmatic benefits to space cooperation that can be argued from realist reasons rather than symbolic cooperation for political points.</p>
<p>A universal docking mechanism between Chinese/US/Russia/ISS manned spacecraft could prove very valuable in an emergency.  The Navy&#8217;s submersible DSRV had a US/Soviet docking port that allowed it to be able to rescue any submarine.  I don&#8217;t think that signaled that we liked the Soviets anymore, it was simply an action to protect submariners&#8217; lives.  </p>
<p>Would a similar space docking port be acceptible for reasons other than coddling China?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Dinkin</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6558</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Dinkin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this is a response to Sino-US cooperation on the &lt;i&gt;Commander in Chief&lt;/i&gt; TV program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a response to Sino-US cooperation on the <i>Commander in Chief</i> TV program.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6557</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;
If Mr. Day is correct, it sounds like China has adapted what was the American strategy toward the Soviet Union during the Cold War (and when Mr. Clinton brought them into the Space Station). Use cooperation on limited (and what were viewed as relatively unimportant) projects to encourage &quot;good behavior&quot; in your opponent.
&lt;/i&gt;

A strategy now thoroughly discredited. Apollo-Soyuz failed to encourage the Soviets from invading Afghanistan, and ISS failed to encourage the Russians from proliferating weapons, missile technology, and nuclear technology to Iran. Chinese access to ISS will, more likely than not, fail to encourage them not to invade Taiwan if they perceive it&#039;s otherwise in their interests to do so.

Space cooperation with China should be withheld and granted only as a reward for good behavior, not granted up-front in the naive hope of encouraging good behavior later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><br />
If Mr. Day is correct, it sounds like China has adapted what was the American strategy toward the Soviet Union during the Cold War (and when Mr. Clinton brought them into the Space Station). Use cooperation on limited (and what were viewed as relatively unimportant) projects to encourage &#8220;good behavior&#8221; in your opponent.<br />
</i></p>
<p>A strategy now thoroughly discredited. Apollo-Soyuz failed to encourage the Soviets from invading Afghanistan, and ISS failed to encourage the Russians from proliferating weapons, missile technology, and nuclear technology to Iran. Chinese access to ISS will, more likely than not, fail to encourage them not to invade Taiwan if they perceive it&#8217;s otherwise in their interests to do so.</p>
<p>Space cooperation with China should be withheld and granted only as a reward for good behavior, not granted up-front in the naive hope of encouraging good behavior later.</p>
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		<title>By: David Davenport</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6556</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Davenport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m answering these in reverse order:


&lt;i&gt;Use cooperation on limited (and what were viewed as relatively unimportant) projects to encourage &quot;good behavior&quot; in your opponent. &lt;/i&gt;

Donald, how or why should Chinese flights to the ISS as helpful &quot;cooperation&quot;?

&lt;i&gt; what was the American strategy toward the Soviet Union during the Cold War &lt;/i&gt;

American space strategy vis 1a vis the USSR prior to the disintegration of same was to beat the Rooskies in the race to the Moon. I don&#039;t see any cooperation there. 

Oh OK, the Apollo Soyuz rendezvous make us all love each other.

&lt;i&gt; ... (and when Mr. Clinton brought them into the Space Station) &lt;/i&gt;

The ISS is and was a mistake. The evil Bracnh Clintonian cult did not initiatiate Russian involvment in the lovely ISS.  The Reagan and the Bush I admin.&#039;s laid the ground work for the International Space Station spasm.

And what has cooperating on the ISS with the Rooskies accomplished? Not much. Vlad the Bad&#039;s regime today is helping the Iranians build A-bombs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m answering these in reverse order:</p>
<p><i>Use cooperation on limited (and what were viewed as relatively unimportant) projects to encourage &#8220;good behavior&#8221; in your opponent. </i></p>
<p>Donald, how or why should Chinese flights to the ISS as helpful &#8220;cooperation&#8221;?</p>
<p><i> what was the American strategy toward the Soviet Union during the Cold War </i></p>
<p>American space strategy vis 1a vis the USSR prior to the disintegration of same was to beat the Rooskies in the race to the Moon. I don&#8217;t see any cooperation there. </p>
<p>Oh OK, the Apollo Soyuz rendezvous make us all love each other.</p>
<p><i> &#8230; (and when Mr. Clinton brought them into the Space Station) </i></p>
<p>The ISS is and was a mistake. The evil Bracnh Clintonian cult did not initiatiate Russian involvment in the lovely ISS.  The Reagan and the Bush I admin.&#8217;s laid the ground work for the International Space Station spasm.</p>
<p>And what has cooperating on the ISS with the Rooskies accomplished? Not much. Vlad the Bad&#8217;s regime today is helping the Iranians build A-bombs.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6555</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Mr. Day is correct, it sounds like China has adapted what was the American strategy toward the Soviet Union during the Cold War (and when Mr. Clinton brought them into the Space Station).  Use cooperation on limited (and what were viewed as relatively unimportant) projects to encourage &quot;good behavior&quot; in your opponent.

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mr. Day is correct, it sounds like China has adapted what was the American strategy toward the Soviet Union during the Cold War (and when Mr. Clinton brought them into the Space Station).  Use cooperation on limited (and what were viewed as relatively unimportant) projects to encourage &#8220;good behavior&#8221; in your opponent.</p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne A. Day</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/01/12/playing-the-china-card/#comment-6554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dwayne A. Day]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article was linked to by Dr. Foust in the original post.  But you can find it here:

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/492/1

As I noted, this is primarily a summary of a conference that I attened in Washington, DC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article was linked to by Dr. Foust in the original post.  But you can find it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thespacereview.com/article/492/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.thespacereview.com/article/492/1</a></p>
<p>As I noted, this is primarily a summary of a conference that I attened in Washington, DC.</p>
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		<title>By: David Davenport</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Davenport]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where can we find your article?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can we find your article?</p>
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