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	<title>Comments on: The challenge of raising NASA&#8217;s budget</title>
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		<title>By: Dennis Wingo</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2006/05/16/the-challenge-of-raising-nasas-budget/#comment-7897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Wingo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 20:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don

Let me clairfy.

The items that you talk about are related to a Euro-nationalist strategy that is the official policy of Europe and ESA to become independent of the U.S. in these areas, specifically because of U.S. politics.

Internal ESA politics determine how their science and exploration missions are carried out, including overpaying for hardware subsystems just because they come from country x, y, or z.  

Any kind of international space agency would have all of these liabilities multiplied by the  number of NASA centers that are in the U.S.

If NASA had a program to acutally support private enterprise as a core value the losses in the commercial realm would be far less than they are today.  ESA has succeeded in the areas that you state exactly for nationalistic economic development reasons.  An international space agency would do nothing to support that and would simply add another layer of meetings, agendas, and paperwork (ISS anyone) to the existing mess.

Dennis
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don</p>
<p>Let me clairfy.</p>
<p>The items that you talk about are related to a Euro-nationalist strategy that is the official policy of Europe and ESA to become independent of the U.S. in these areas, specifically because of U.S. politics.</p>
<p>Internal ESA politics determine how their science and exploration missions are carried out, including overpaying for hardware subsystems just because they come from country x, y, or z.  </p>
<p>Any kind of international space agency would have all of these liabilities multiplied by the  number of NASA centers that are in the U.S.</p>
<p>If NASA had a program to acutally support private enterprise as a core value the losses in the commercial realm would be far less than they are today.  ESA has succeeded in the areas that you state exactly for nationalistic economic development reasons.  An international space agency would do nothing to support that and would simply add another layer of meetings, agendas, and paperwork (ISS anyone) to the existing mess.</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: Donald F. Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Donald F. Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 18:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, European nations have taken much of the launch vehicle business, a good half of the comsat business, and circa half of the commercial transport industry from us in the last decade.  True, we &quot;handed&quot; much of this to them through ideologically driven and basically stupid decisions on our part.  However, that&#039;s not a bad performance for &quot;worse politics&quot; than those effecting NASA. . . .

-- Donald]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, European nations have taken much of the launch vehicle business, a good half of the comsat business, and circa half of the commercial transport industry from us in the last decade.  True, we &#8220;handed&#8221; much of this to them through ideologically driven and basically stupid decisions on our part.  However, that&#8217;s not a bad performance for &#8220;worse politics&#8221; than those effecting NASA. . . .</p>
<p>&#8212; Donald</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Ray Wingo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Ray Wingo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 02:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea right.  I spend a lot of time working with ESA folks and it is much slower than NASA is with worse politics.

Dennis]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea right.  I spend a lot of time working with ESA folks and it is much slower than NASA is with worse politics.</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: ned</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 22:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think nasa should work better with other nations.  This international space agency group that has posted here on sp has some very good points and ideas.  It would be good if nasa were to join an international space agency as this group is proposing.  It would get us back to the moon to stay and on mars much faster than nasa all alone.  It would be cheaper for nasa and the infrastructure would be much larger.  The website for this international space agency group is: http://www.isa-hq.com  should check it out as they have some good info and ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think nasa should work better with other nations.  This international space agency group that has posted here on sp has some very good points and ideas.  It would be good if nasa were to join an international space agency as this group is proposing.  It would get us back to the moon to stay and on mars much faster than nasa all alone.  It would be cheaper for nasa and the infrastructure would be much larger.  The website for this international space agency group is: <a href="http://www.isa-hq.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.isa-hq.com</a>  should check it out as they have some good info and ideas.</p>
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