Comments on: Not everyone’s happy about Griffin’s China trip

By: m h

m h — Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:04:22 +0000

‘The only thing that is likely to open China to democracy is civil war’
Chris Mann

China spent the first half of 20th century fighting civil wars, sometimes simultaneously with fighting World War. Who did Chinese choose in the end? The communists.

Oh, quite some Tibetans welcomed the central goverment’s army into Lhasa. Those who felt bitter left Tibet and has been crying foul abroad. What is the point?

China is going to develope its space capability reguardless if there is US cooperation. I say the humanity is having one more basket to put eggs in if China has a space program that is independent from US space policy. Had the US been able to have its way with Soviet/Russian space programs, Soyuz would have been sent to junk yard, human would have no access to space when the Shuttle eventually got into trouble. Diversity is a good thing.

By: vze3gz45

vze3gz45 — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:47:55 +0000

‘Yeah, the Tibetans showered the Chinese with rose petals when they came in, didn’t they? And the Tawainese are tripping over themselves to rejoin the mainland. Whatever dude.’

Yeah, and I am sure the Hawaii’s and Mexicans welcomed the US when we took California and Hawaii.
vze3gz45

By: Chance

Chance — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:56:02 +0000

Yeah, the Tibetans showered the Chinese with rose petals when they came in, didn’t they? And the Tawainese are tripping over themselves to rejoin the mainland. Whatever dude.

By: vze3gz45

vze3gz45 — Tue, 03 Oct 2006 13:08:49 +0000

‘Forgotten Tibet?’

Tibet is part of China. Just like Taiwan is also part of China, and Hawaii is part of the U.S.

vze3gz45

By: cIclops

cIclops — Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:37:47 +0000

vze3gz45

They dont walk into countires and take them.

Forgotten Tibet?

By: Nemo2

Nemo2 — Sun, 01 Oct 2006 06:31:32 +0000

>>>

I note that you did not say “There is no legitimate option for AMERICA’S existence in space into the future other than VSE.”

Your statement makes does not take a stand on whether it really matters if a particular bureaucracy has an existence. What matters is an expanding American presence in space, and there are many ways this can happen other than NASA.

– Nemo2

By: vze3gz45

vze3gz45 — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:09:11 +0000

‘Does anyone in their right mind think that the extravigant and ill-thought policies of a failed administration are sustainable?’

Well, I think Orion, Aries, Constellation and VSE are sustainable because both Republicians and Democrats support it now and are likely to support it into the future. This country does not have a choice. There is no legitimate option for NASA’s existance in space into the future other than VSE.

vze3gz45

By: Thomas Lee Elifritz

Thomas Lee Elifritz — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 15:59:19 +0000

NASA is prattling around on borrowed time.

Er … you mean borrowed money, right?

By: Tom

Tom — Sat, 30 Sep 2006 04:22:51 +0000

J.J. has it right. Iraqnam is turning into a nightmarish quagmire. Surprisingly, Afghanistam is also souring rapidly. Hundreds of billions of $ are being poured into these enterprises. Does anyone in their right mind think that the extravigant and ill-thought policies of a failed administration are sustainable? C’mon guys…this endeavor is a dead man walking. NASA is prattling around on borrowed time.

By: Donald F. Robertson

Donald F. Robertson — Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:41:06 +0000

vze3gz45: Excellent points, and I pretty much agree with all of them.

In the wider picture of humanity’s move into space, having China involved is a very important asset. China represents one more branch of humanity — one more civilization with its own ways of looking at the world — with the interest and ability to get into space. The more of these there are, the more likely it is that one of them will find a reason to be actively interested at any point in time. As long as it doesn’t degerate into active military confruntation, I would call what’s going on now “healthy competition.”

— Donald