Comments on: Giuliani wants to “aggressively pursue space exploration” http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: The Politics of Space Exploration « Dad2059’s Blog of Science Fiction/Science Fact and Random Acts of Weirdness http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-32470 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:12:10 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-32470 […] Source: Tallahassee Democrat (via Space Politics.com), “Giuliani Wants to ‘Aggressively Pursue S… […]

]]> By: Space Politics » Rudy in Huntsville http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-12892 Wed, 09 May 2007 11:15:34 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-12892 […] candidates of either major party, has said little about space exploration other than that he wants to “aggressively pursue space exploration”. Perhaps not that aggressively, though: he told a Heritage Foundation audience earlier this week […]

]]> By: Mike http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-12338 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:58:46 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-12338 A few of you talk about solar power as a renewable power source but right now it’s just not efficient enough but scientists are working on it. Also someone asked about nuclear fission to get us to mars, well I attend Florida Tech and one of the Grad students is working on that possibility right now. Also the reason why they are going back to an Apollo type craft to go back to the moon is because IT WORKS, and IF IT AIN’T BROKE DON’T FIX IT!

]]> By: Paul Dietz http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-12055 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:26:13 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-12055 Radiometric dating can be done with sample return. It’s regularly done with samples from space — meteorites. Why does it require humans on site?

]]> By: Donald F. Robertson http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11478 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:29:02 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11478 Adasteia, well we have spent comparable amounts over the past few decades getting a lot of pretty pictures that provide relative measurements for a few of the larger bodies in the Solar System, but don’t actually answer the question of how old any planetary surfaces really are, let alone whether there might be fossils or sampled detailed stratigraphy over wide areas. Is that truly money better spent?

— Donald

]]> By: Adrasteia http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11429 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:54:15 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11429 $200B+ through 2025 seems like a lot of money to be spending on radiometric dating.

]]> By: Donald F. Robertson http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11382 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:08:14 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11382 Robert: The really sad thing that this statement shows is how badly mangaled the “effort” of Apollo is/was in American culture and Politics. Apollo really accomplished nothing of value past the PR and the historical effort of putting men on the Moon. Otherwise it had no permanancy of value.

This is dead wrong. To this date, the only absolute dating for any large body surface in the Solar System come from the large collections intelligently obtained over wide areas by the Apollo astronauts. The entire edifice of dating from Mercury to Neptune’s moons is based on the resulting crater counts. They are little more than educated guesses and almost certainly will prove to be over-similifications (at best, more likely they’ll be simply wrong) once future astronauts do similar studies on other planets.

Apollo astronauts managed to find pieces of the orginal lunar crust, although it proved far more difficult than anticipated — something no robotic mission could have accomplished, then or now. (It just might be possible to automate obtaining samples today, but only because of what we learned from Apollo.)

And so on. Read the Harland book I’ve recommended before, then make that statement.

— Donald

]]> By: Ivan http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11349 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 10:33:07 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11349 Robert Oler is against anything others see as having value.

]]> By: Anonymous-Prime http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11173 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 04:26:21 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11173 Like it or not, chemical propulsion to low earth orbit is what you’ve got. Rather than bitching about it over and over, you need to accept it, and work with it. building massive throwaway launchers is not accepting reality and working within it. It’s generally referred to as pissing into the wind.

I have no argument with you when it comes to ETO transportation. Perhaps I should have been more explicit in my statement. The benefit of attainable advanced technologies is for in-space applications.

]]> By: Thomas Lee Elifritz http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11171 Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:23:42 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/2007/04/05/giuliani-wants-to-aggressively-pursue-space-exploration/#comment-11171 There is only one stage, and when you are finished with it, it is in orbit, with some payload to spare. The cost of putting that stage into orbit is prepaid, so you had better well design it to be useful. I can’t quite think of anything more useful in orbit than an entire booster stage, complete with residual fuel and a pressurization system. The hydrogen is ephemeral. It all ends up as water.

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