But you have no evidence, right?

You’re just talking out your ass, right?

While I think you are wrong about human generated global warming, I’ll take my friends where I can get them. If every non-believer in harmful MMCC believed, and acted on, what you wrote above, I’d be a very happy man.

Regarding China, Arthur Clarke once said that the world would come to an end the day every Chinaman ownes his own car. In essense, I think he was (and is) probably correct.

— Donald

I emphasize this point after China, who is gaining fast on the US for Carbon Queen of the World, just published their own plan about carbon reduction. As usual it’s we’re a poor country, the West caused MMCC, so it’s their problem and China can’t deal with it.

I do believe the doom awaiting us from MMCC is an imaginative red herring, for enriching ALgore, the media and politicians in general. Kinda of like the chatter of the past about the “Coming Economic Depression” so buy gold! However it is highly desirable to reduce, as rapidly as possible our usage of oil & gas. Mainly because its high cost, high pollution and unstable supplies. I also believe we should expand our usage of solar at home and nuclear power for the grid. Why? both are reliable low pollution energy sources. The argument of lower pollution predates the MMCC hysteria by decades. In fact it even predates an earlier version of MMCC when the claim was that the earth was about to re-enter a new Ice Age, circa 1975.

U.S. scales back climate science via satellites
‘Overall climate program in serious jeopardy,’ NOAA and NASA experts say
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19030744/

Bush can’t expect to be taken seriously on climate change if he’s spent the last six years gutting our own programs. This one of many disconnects between what Bush says and what he does. I guess he hoped no one would every notice or they could spin this somehow.

This is well taken, sorry if I’ve pushed too hard for my view. However, when the alternative view, however wrong, is considered the default by so many people, it is hard to keep one’s mouth shut when nonesense is stated so often by people who should know better simply because they haven’t really thought about it. I shall work a little harder.

— Donald

At the risk of agreeing with Herr Dr. Elfritz (or whatever honorific eurotrolls use these days), the answer to Mike’s statement is simple:

We, the generation of homo sapiens that has achieved a rudimentary ability to leave our home world and look back at it, have decided that we would rather not go through the normal (or human-exacerbated) climactic shifts that cro-magnon man and earlier precursor species endured.

Of course, what that demands is an increase in funding for Earth science research — focusing study as much on inherent cycles as anthropomorphic changes — that would make even the greenest Member of Congress blush. And then a level of planetary engineering to provide “course corrections” at the appropriate point in the cycles, best done from space, of course. The former activity could include NASA, the latter should drive NASA.

But neither of these benefits, or benefits from, Mike’s chosen implementation path for lunar/mars exploration.

– Jim