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	<title>Comments on: Obama still talking about using NASA to fund education</title>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-250617</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NASA and Constellation are getting just desserts, and some of these writers belong in comedy.  If Obama boosted NASA funding, he&#039;d be accused of being Leftist.  When he wants to reduce funding he gets accused of being Leftist.  Perhaps he wants to put money into education so that more Americans have a half a sense of logic.  Constellation has been wasting tax payer money, and deserves cutting.  Last I heard that&#039;s the sort of decision that generally comes from a conservative.  The problems with Constellation are not really NASA&#039;s fault, however; they stem from the attrition of technical talent going back to roughly 1990, when the agency began its transition to &#039;administration.&#039;  Prior to that it was a premier technical agency, actually able to understand, contribute to, and guide efforts of contractors.  If the delay in Constellation is taken as a time to staff-up with technical experts, the waste could be reduced, and we could get back to the Moon faster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA and Constellation are getting just desserts, and some of these writers belong in comedy.  If Obama boosted NASA funding, he&#8217;d be accused of being Leftist.  When he wants to reduce funding he gets accused of being Leftist.  Perhaps he wants to put money into education so that more Americans have a half a sense of logic.  Constellation has been wasting tax payer money, and deserves cutting.  Last I heard that&#8217;s the sort of decision that generally comes from a conservative.  The problems with Constellation are not really NASA&#8217;s fault, however; they stem from the attrition of technical talent going back to roughly 1990, when the agency began its transition to &#8216;administration.&#8217;  Prior to that it was a premier technical agency, actually able to understand, contribute to, and guide efforts of contractors.  If the delay in Constellation is taken as a time to staff-up with technical experts, the waste could be reduced, and we could get back to the Moon faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Mom</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-63323</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Your Mom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not a question of priorities at NASA. This is a question of negligence in Washington. Over 1 Billion is spent in Iraq each week and we are starving the very agency that has given us the ability to fight wars, perform modern operations, communicate globally, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a question of priorities at NASA. This is a question of negligence in Washington. Over 1 Billion is spent in Iraq each week and we are starving the very agency that has given us the ability to fight wars, perform modern operations, communicate globally, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Obama on Space Again &#171; In Other Words</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obama on Space Again &#171; In Other Words]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] on Space&#160;Again  But not directly. Barack Obama was speaking in South Carolina on education. From NPR: In advance of Saturday&#8217;s South Carolina Democratic [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on Space&nbsp;Again  But not directly. Barack Obama was speaking in South Carolina on education. From NPR: In advance of Saturday&#8217;s South Carolina Democratic [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris Valyn</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-35889</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris Valyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Butkovich - Senator Obama specifically endorsed the CEV and Ares I.  What he would end up delaying is Ares V, and the Lunar Lander (and associated lunar hardware).

Actually, this is my real problem with him - Ares I needs to be killed, and CEV needs severe re-thinking.  

CitizenG - I am always glad to see the &quot;liberals hate space&quot; meme is alive and well.  Its such a load of crap, but it can keep me busy.  And I know its nice to have a hobby]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Butkovich &#8211; Senator Obama specifically endorsed the CEV and Ares I.  What he would end up delaying is Ares V, and the Lunar Lander (and associated lunar hardware).</p>
<p>Actually, this is my real problem with him &#8211; Ares I needs to be killed, and CEV needs severe re-thinking.  </p>
<p>CitizenG &#8211; I am always glad to see the &#8220;liberals hate space&#8221; meme is alive and well.  Its such a load of crap, but it can keep me busy.  And I know its nice to have a hobby</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Conrad</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-35782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Conrad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Of course it is feasible. But it is like building an ocean liner and keeping it in the harbor to save fuel costs.&quot;

Not at all!  Orion would be built.  Ares I would be built.  Get into LEO, and probably keep the ISS going until he&#039;s out of office.  Then, we have to decide whether we want to develop the Ares V or not to go to the moon.  It&#039;s not the end of the CEV, if it happens.  It&#039;s more like the TPF.  Let&#039;s delay it, and we&#039;ll look at it again in 5 years.  Will we ever do it?  I dunno.  Ask my replacement.

It&#039;s really more like building an ocean liner, and not giving it a large enough fuel tank to go more than a few hundred miles out to sea...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course it is feasible. But it is like building an ocean liner and keeping it in the harbor to save fuel costs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at all!  Orion would be built.  Ares I would be built.  Get into LEO, and probably keep the ISS going until he&#8217;s out of office.  Then, we have to decide whether we want to develop the Ares V or not to go to the moon.  It&#8217;s not the end of the CEV, if it happens.  It&#8217;s more like the TPF.  Let&#8217;s delay it, and we&#8217;ll look at it again in 5 years.  Will we ever do it?  I dunno.  Ask my replacement.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really more like building an ocean liner, and not giving it a large enough fuel tank to go more than a few hundred miles out to sea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Butkovich</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-35707</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Butkovich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sen Obama&#039;s talk of delaying CEV is short sighted at best.  Where are all of the kids he wants to fund in science and engineering going to get jobs after his actions take effect on the US space industry?  Any delays to CEV are going to leave the US with no human spacelift capability for many years and will likely have a trickle down of having a disasterous effect on many of the space manufacturing companies in the US.  Hopefully Sen Obama will fund lessons in Hindi or Mandarin along with his science education funding; students will need these language skills if they hope to work in aerospace if he becomes president (of course our kids will want to learn Russian also if they hope to get to the ISS).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen Obama&#8217;s talk of delaying CEV is short sighted at best.  Where are all of the kids he wants to fund in science and engineering going to get jobs after his actions take effect on the US space industry?  Any delays to CEV are going to leave the US with no human spacelift capability for many years and will likely have a trickle down of having a disasterous effect on many of the space manufacturing companies in the US.  Hopefully Sen Obama will fund lessons in Hindi or Mandarin along with his science education funding; students will need these language skills if they hope to work in aerospace if he becomes president (of course our kids will want to learn Russian also if they hope to get to the ISS).</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Laviolette</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-35694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Laviolette]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Space Program would be an ideal place to initiate homegrown employment. The idea of one asteroid hitting the Earth to hundreds of Social Studies Philosophers may have a certain amount of appeal. It would be more appealing than the impending threat of the draft to man the proliferation of foreign military bases. These foreign products we buy also have an impact. They have the taint of American Veterans&#039; giving their lives on them, in every country we buy from. We guard countries like South Korea while the Japanese produce flatscreen lcd televisions there. Maybe it we show to be cost effective for us to produce them here and bring the troops home as Senator Obama had suggested earlier in his campaign strategies. It is tough to find visionaries among politicians and even tougher to fight off the greedy ones. Let us level the playing field for scientific ventures and employment instead of leveling countries. I want a  Space-Friendly Candidate. Find me one and I will vote for Him/Her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Space Program would be an ideal place to initiate homegrown employment. The idea of one asteroid hitting the Earth to hundreds of Social Studies Philosophers may have a certain amount of appeal. It would be more appealing than the impending threat of the draft to man the proliferation of foreign military bases. These foreign products we buy also have an impact. They have the taint of American Veterans&#8217; giving their lives on them, in every country we buy from. We guard countries like South Korea while the Japanese produce flatscreen lcd televisions there. Maybe it we show to be cost effective for us to produce them here and bring the troops home as Senator Obama had suggested earlier in his campaign strategies. It is tough to find visionaries among politicians and even tougher to fight off the greedy ones. Let us level the playing field for scientific ventures and employment instead of leveling countries. I want a  Space-Friendly Candidate. Find me one and I will vote for Him/Her.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo2</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/01/24/obama-still-talking-about-using-nasa-to-fund-education/#comment-35542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemo2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ACTIONSFORSPACE:  &lt;i&gt;If you are going to take the time to read this post and itâ€™s comments, take the time to tell Obama that he needs to change his policy. &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, tell Obama that he should adopt the recommendations of the bipartisan national (Aldridge) Commission, which stated that NASA must completely transform its relationship with the private sector, and that NASA must alter its plans in a manner that are affordable and sustainable.

Tell him, that if he does so, he can produce major results for our nation&#039;s space agenda with a steady flat-lined budget (which Mike Griffin has already predicted is what we will get for the next 50 years).

Tell him this is a change agenda.

- Nemo2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACTIONSFORSPACE:  <i>If you are going to take the time to read this post and itâ€™s comments, take the time to tell Obama that he needs to change his policy. </i></p>
<p>Yes, tell Obama that he should adopt the recommendations of the bipartisan national (Aldridge) Commission, which stated that NASA must completely transform its relationship with the private sector, and that NASA must alter its plans in a manner that are affordable and sustainable.</p>
<p>Tell him, that if he does so, he can produce major results for our nation&#8217;s space agenda with a steady flat-lined budget (which Mike Griffin has already predicted is what we will get for the next 50 years).</p>
<p>Tell him this is a change agenda.</p>
<p>&#8211; Nemo2</p>
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		<title>By: SpaceMan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SpaceMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously none of you have focused enough attention on politics to realize that what a candidate says during a campaign has &lt;strong&gt;NOTHING&lt;/strong&gt; to do with what they actually do once in office not to mention the fact that it takes lots of people (like Congress for instance) to assist in making a specific program functional.

Get real and quit acting like the point of all this is electing a king.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously none of you have focused enough attention on politics to realize that what a candidate says during a campaign has <strong>NOTHING</strong> to do with what they actually do once in office not to mention the fact that it takes lots of people (like Congress for instance) to assist in making a specific program functional.</p>
<p>Get real and quit acting like the point of all this is electing a king.</p>
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		<title>By: actionforspace.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[actionforspace.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course it is feasible. But it is like building an ocean liner and keeping it in the harbor to save fuel costs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it is feasible. But it is like building an ocean liner and keeping it in the harbor to save fuel costs.</p>
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