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	<title>Comments on: Things may change &#8211; or they may not</title>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that Mark was making a pathetic (and failed) attempt at sarcasm, anon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Mark was making a pathetic (and failed) attempt at sarcasm, anon.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous.space</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous.space]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;No doubt there is a really, deep conspiracy going on here.&quot;

Proof?  Evidence?

FWIW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No doubt there is a really, deep conspiracy going on here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Proof?  Evidence?</p>
<p>FWIW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill White</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39388</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unless NASA&#039;s budget is increased from ~$17.6 billion per year it won&#039;t matter much in the long run because ESAS could very well prove unattainable at that funding level.

For those opposed to ESAS, I would suggest there is a better chance of scrapping it and going Atlas V with Obama rather than Clinton or McCain as the latter two may very well stick with the Stick and the heavy Orion but continue underfunding NASA meaning a longer gap, a delay or cancellation of Ares V, and a whole lot of money spent for very little in results.

In my opinion we need to either increase funding of ESAS or cancel it and turn to another plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless NASA&#8217;s budget is increased from ~$17.6 billion per year it won&#8217;t matter much in the long run because ESAS could very well prove unattainable at that funding level.</p>
<p>For those opposed to ESAS, I would suggest there is a better chance of scrapping it and going Atlas V with Obama rather than Clinton or McCain as the latter two may very well stick with the Stick and the heavy Orion but continue underfunding NASA meaning a longer gap, a delay or cancellation of Ares V, and a whole lot of money spent for very little in results.</p>
<p>In my opinion we need to either increase funding of ESAS or cancel it and turn to another plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris Valyn</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris Valyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;No doubt there is a really, deep conspiracy going on here.&lt;/i&gt;

No mark, all the conspiracies are just against you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No doubt there is a really, deep conspiracy going on here.</i></p>
<p>No mark, all the conspiracies are just against you.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkWhittington</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkWhittington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No doubt there is a really, deep conspiracy going on here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt there is a really, deep conspiracy going on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;ATK was given an uncompeted sole-source contract. When you combine that with the whole issue of Doc Horowitzâ€™s involvement with both NASA on the specifications writing side, then ATK on sales side, then NASA again on the execution sideâ€¦thereâ€™s room for more than just sour grapes.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m actually surprised that no investigative reporter has ever dug into this.  It could have been a very juicy story.  I would in fact expect a protest from Boeing or Lockmart, but I guess they figure that they don&#039;t want to jeopardize future NASA contracts by complaining.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ATK was given an uncompeted sole-source contract. When you combine that with the whole issue of Doc Horowitzâ€™s involvement with both NASA on the specifications writing side, then ATK on sales side, then NASA again on the execution sideâ€¦thereâ€™s room for more than just sour grapes.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually surprised that no investigative reporter has ever dug into this.  It could have been a very juicy story.  I would in fact expect a protest from Boeing or Lockmart, but I guess they figure that they don&#8217;t want to jeopardize future NASA contracts by complaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Goff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Goff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Allen (and Bob),

&quot;&#039;This is not an argument between NASA and anyone else. This is an argument between a losing contractor and a winning contractor by a losing contractor that (thinks) the winner should be overturned,&#039; he said. &#039;Sorry.&#039;&quot;

I&#039;d buy that if they actually did a fairly competed contract and ATK still won.  Instead, ATK was given an uncompeted sole-source contract.  When you combine that with the whole issue of Doc Horowitz&#039;s involvement with both NASA on the specifications writing side, then ATK on sales side, then NASA again on the execution side...there&#039;s room for more than just sour grapes.

~Jon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Allen (and Bob),</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;This is not an argument between NASA and anyone else. This is an argument between a losing contractor and a winning contractor by a losing contractor that (thinks) the winner should be overturned,&#8217; he said. &#8216;Sorry.'&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d buy that if they actually did a fairly competed contract and ATK still won.  Instead, ATK was given an uncompeted sole-source contract.  When you combine that with the whole issue of Doc Horowitz&#8217;s involvement with both NASA on the specifications writing side, then ATK on sales side, then NASA again on the execution side&#8230;there&#8217;s room for more than just sour grapes.</p>
<p>~Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Mahoney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Mahoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They must have covered public relations on that day, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They must have covered public relations on that day, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Thomson</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/24/things-may-change-or-they-may-not/#comment-39329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allen Thomson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[â€œItâ€™s just noise. Itâ€™s people who would like to sell Atlas 5 trying to use methods outside the market. They are trying to use political methods to get people to buy their product instead of another product,â€ Griffin said.

You can tell Griffin skipped class the day irony was being discussed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œItâ€™s just noise. Itâ€™s people who would like to sell Atlas 5 trying to use methods outside the market. They are trying to use political methods to get people to buy their product instead of another product,â€ Griffin said.</p>
<p>You can tell Griffin skipped class the day irony was being discussed.</p>
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