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		<title>By: Habitat Hermit</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/29/another-snippet-from-the-campaign-trail/#comment-40350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Habitat Hermit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meh Elifritz, and pfft too.

Oh and a thank you: a hobby of mine is collecting genuinely unprovoked hurled insults of the laughter-inducing kind (at least to those who know me in person) and I&#039;ve just added &quot;destroyer of America&quot; ^_^

Ok a few clarifications: any sensible economist (not saying I&#039;m one) would of course work in a comfortable armchair so your idiomatic use of &quot;armchair&quot; flounders. It&#039;s not like they&#039;re out in the wilderness hitting inflation over the head with a mallet... doesn&#039;t work that way.

On politics I&#039;m somewhere in the vicinity of what has to be called classical liberalism in the US, otherwise known simply as liberalism in the rest of the world. I would be extremely likely to vote Republican if American.

Oslo, Norway is where I&#039;m located and yes I&#039;m Norwegian.

Obligatory hidden message to Elifritz included.

!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh Elifritz, and pfft too.</p>
<p>Oh and a thank you: a hobby of mine is collecting genuinely unprovoked hurled insults of the laughter-inducing kind (at least to those who know me in person) and I&#8217;ve just added &#8220;destroyer of America&#8221; ^_^</p>
<p>Ok a few clarifications: any sensible economist (not saying I&#8217;m one) would of course work in a comfortable armchair so your idiomatic use of &#8220;armchair&#8221; flounders. It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re out in the wilderness hitting inflation over the head with a mallet&#8230; doesn&#8217;t work that way.</p>
<p>On politics I&#8217;m somewhere in the vicinity of what has to be called classical liberalism in the US, otherwise known simply as liberalism in the rest of the world. I would be extremely likely to vote Republican if American.</p>
<p>Oslo, Norway is where I&#8217;m located and yes I&#8217;m Norwegian.</p>
<p>Obligatory hidden message to Elifritz included.</p>
<p>!</p>
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		<title>By: American Patriot</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So just like you, Rand, he is an &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;ARMCHAIR&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; debt warrior.

Only he has nothing at stake, and nothing to lose. Figures.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So just like you, Rand, he is an <b><i>ARMCHAIR</i></b> debt warrior.</p>
<p>Only he has nothing at stake, and nothing to lose. Figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s kind of amusing that Elifritz is so stupid as to think that Habitat Hermit is an American.  Or a Republican.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of amusing that Elifritz is so stupid as to think that Habitat Hermit is an American.  Or a Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: American Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/02/29/another-snippet-from-the-campaign-trail/#comment-40175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[American Patriot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So less hyperventilation and more reasoning please.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s people just like you that have destroyed America.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;A tad less economic xenophobia would be good&lt;/i&gt;

You are a first class American ahole. This war and debt is catastrophic.

Go peddle your conservative free market flim flam hucksterism to ignorant school children. School children now amenable to your propaganda from 30 years of your neglect of basic science and rationality over republican nonsense and verbal inanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So less hyperventilation and more reasoning please.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s people just like you that have destroyed America.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/" rel="nofollow">http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/</a></p>
<p><i>A tad less economic xenophobia would be good</i></p>
<p>You are a first class American ahole. This war and debt is catastrophic.</p>
<p>Go peddle your conservative free market flim flam hucksterism to ignorant school children. School children now amenable to your propaganda from 30 years of your neglect of basic science and rationality over republican nonsense and verbal inanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Habitat Hermit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Habitat Hermit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 10:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apologies for replying to the off-topic conversation.

Vladislaw:
no, comparing the US (or any nation state) to a company just doesn&#039;t hold water on so many levels and particularly in respect to economics, and that&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;good thing&lt;/i&gt;. The comparison is ok for soundbites and general spirit of approach but beyond that it doesn&#039;t make much sense if any.

To the debt-mongers:
the US debt situation isn&#039;t nearly as bad as a lot of people (would like?) to believe, &lt;b&gt;in fact&lt;/b&gt; the US public debt (what one always hears referenced simply as the US debt) as a percentage of GDP (the only measure that has substantial meaning) is now less or close to what it was from about 1985 to about 1999.

So less hyperventilation and more reasoning please.

Sure there are issues about future changes and particularly demographic ones and GWB in particular has (unsuccessfully) been trying to get Congress to address those pretty much since he came into office. That&#039;s eight years with Congress under control of both major parties, too bad the Republicans didn&#039;t have an &lt;i&gt;absolute&lt;/i&gt; majority or the initiatives would likely have gotten through and wouldn&#039;t be a worry any more.

Another thing about debt and foreign debt-holders in particular; the debt is &lt;i&gt;bought&lt;/i&gt; by foreigners and Americans alike. Many don&#039;t seem to get that and don&#039;t understand that the reason for doing so is that it accumulates returns and various other benefits depending on what kind of economic entity the buyer is. I.e. when someone buys US debt in the form of bonds (nearly all of it is) they do so as an investment. There is also a limit on just how much foreigners can hold and as far as I know Japan is the only country that has maxed out that limit, not China.

A tad less economic xenophobia would be good ^_^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for replying to the off-topic conversation.</p>
<p>Vladislaw:<br />
no, comparing the US (or any nation state) to a company just doesn&#8217;t hold water on so many levels and particularly in respect to economics, and that&#8217;s a <i>good thing</i>. The comparison is ok for soundbites and general spirit of approach but beyond that it doesn&#8217;t make much sense if any.</p>
<p>To the debt-mongers:<br />
the US debt situation isn&#8217;t nearly as bad as a lot of people (would like?) to believe, <b>in fact</b> the US public debt (what one always hears referenced simply as the US debt) as a percentage of GDP (the only measure that has substantial meaning) is now less or close to what it was from about 1985 to about 1999.</p>
<p>So less hyperventilation and more reasoning please.</p>
<p>Sure there are issues about future changes and particularly demographic ones and GWB in particular has (unsuccessfully) been trying to get Congress to address those pretty much since he came into office. That&#8217;s eight years with Congress under control of both major parties, too bad the Republicans didn&#8217;t have an <i>absolute</i> majority or the initiatives would likely have gotten through and wouldn&#8217;t be a worry any more.</p>
<p>Another thing about debt and foreign debt-holders in particular; the debt is <i>bought</i> by foreigners and Americans alike. Many don&#8217;t seem to get that and don&#8217;t understand that the reason for doing so is that it accumulates returns and various other benefits depending on what kind of economic entity the buyer is. I.e. when someone buys US debt in the form of bonds (nearly all of it is) they do so as an investment. There is also a limit on just how much foreigners can hold and as far as I know Japan is the only country that has maxed out that limit, not China.</p>
<p>A tad less economic xenophobia would be good ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fortunatly America is actually a corporation, USA Inc. and will beable to declare bankruptcy in no time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunatly America is actually a corporation, USA Inc. and will beable to declare bankruptcy in no time.</p>
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		<title>By: Monte Davis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon, Al -- we&#039;ve got a lot of deck chairs to rearrange here, and there you go again with your &quot;iceberg&quot; obsession.

Me, I&#039;m over it. I used to think that big tax cuts + deficit-financed war + stagnant growth+ inflation + high energy prices was a sequence all too reminiscent of 1964-1974, but for several weeks now Very Serious People have been assuring us that it&#039;s Nothing Like That At All. So if we all clap our hands hard enough, Tinkerbelle should be just fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, Al &#8212; we&#8217;ve got a lot of deck chairs to rearrange here, and there you go again with your &#8220;iceberg&#8221; obsession.</p>
<p>Me, I&#8217;m over it. I used to think that big tax cuts + deficit-financed war + stagnant growth+ inflation + high energy prices was a sequence all too reminiscent of 1964-1974, but for several weeks now Very Serious People have been assuring us that it&#8217;s Nothing Like That At All. So if we all clap our hands hard enough, Tinkerbelle should be just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Fansome</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Fansome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see a lot of arguing here -- but little of it deals with reality.

We have a huge budget deficits ... as far as the eye can see.

The baby boomers are starting to retire, and Medicare and Social Security are about to explode.  The budget deficits are only going to get worse, unless something drastic is done about federal spending, taxes, or both.

CONCLUSION:  The last 16 years at NASA will soon be seen as good years.

I don&#039;t care who wins -- McCain, Clinton or Obama.

A really bad storm is coming.  There is going to be blood on the floor.  In real dollars, spending for a civilian space agency is going to be going down for a long time to come.

That is, unless somebody does something totally different.

- Al]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of arguing here &#8212; but little of it deals with reality.</p>
<p>We have a huge budget deficits &#8230; as far as the eye can see.</p>
<p>The baby boomers are starting to retire, and Medicare and Social Security are about to explode.  The budget deficits are only going to get worse, unless something drastic is done about federal spending, taxes, or both.</p>
<p>CONCLUSION:  The last 16 years at NASA will soon be seen as good years.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care who wins &#8212; McCain, Clinton or Obama.</p>
<p>A really bad storm is coming.  There is going to be blood on the floor.  In real dollars, spending for a civilian space agency is going to be going down for a long time to come.</p>
<p>That is, unless somebody does something totally different.</p>
<p>&#8211; Al</p>
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		<title>By: The Question</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Question]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 03:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrong link. This is the correct one.

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong link. This is the correct one.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3433485.ece</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Question</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Question]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forunately the British may save us from Obama so this discussion on his space policy may be moot. 

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/28/155937/434&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama, Rezko, Auchi Connections per Times Online UK&lt;/A&gt;

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/28/155937/434

Obama, Rezko, Auchi Connections per Times Online UK

by Vote4Hillary, Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:59:37 PM EST

From The Times
February 26, 2008
Mansion &#039;mistake&#039; piles the pressure on Barack Obama

It also explains a lot about Obama&#039;s &quot;success&quot; in fund raising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forunately the British may save us from Obama so this discussion on his space policy may be moot. </p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/28/155937/434" rel="nofollow">Obama, Rezko, Auchi Connections per Times Online UK</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/28/155937/434" rel="nofollow">http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/28/155937/434</a></p>
<p>Obama, Rezko, Auchi Connections per Times Online UK</p>
<p>by Vote4Hillary, Thu Feb 28, 2008 at 03:59:37 PM EST</p>
<p>From The Times<br />
February 26, 2008<br />
Mansion &#8216;mistake&#8217; piles the pressure on Barack Obama</p>
<p>It also explains a lot about Obama&#8217;s &#8220;success&#8221; in fund raising.</p>
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