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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; Putting Obama&#8217;s speech in perspective</title>
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		<dc:creator>Space Politics &#187; Putting Obama&#8217;s speech in perspective</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama held in Cape Canaveral Saturday morning but focused on offshore drilling (another example of energy trumping space?). FoxNews.com did devote a blog post to the issue, alongside John McCain&#8217;s meeting with a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/07/18/more-on-energy-vs-space/comment-page-1/#comment-60472</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Lassiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s mostly my point. The hard-sell for NASA has gotten a lot harder, for reasons that have nothing to do with agency funding adequacy or schedule margins. But &quot;energy, environment, security, medical, and so on&quot; is mom and apple pie (none of which space exploration has ever been clearly connected with). Energy independence is a more focused goal that scores a bulls eye with national need.

If you ask the electorate whether they&#039;d rather spend $50B to go back to the Moon, or invest that in energy independence, I&#039;d say it would be a slam dunk for the latter.

Obama is spouting &quot;Yes we can!&quot;, and even McCain is acting like he believes in something like that. Unfortunately, for putting humans on the Moon, NASA doesn&#039;t have a lot more to say than &quot;Yes, we did&quot;, aside from steroids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s mostly my point. The hard-sell for NASA has gotten a lot harder, for reasons that have nothing to do with agency funding adequacy or schedule margins. But &#8220;energy, environment, security, medical, and so on&#8221; is mom and apple pie (none of which space exploration has ever been clearly connected with). Energy independence is a more focused goal that scores a bulls eye with national need.</p>
<p>If you ask the electorate whether they&#8217;d rather spend $50B to go back to the Moon, or invest that in energy independence, I&#8217;d say it would be a slam dunk for the latter.</p>
<p>Obama is spouting &#8220;Yes we can!&#8221;, and even McCain is acting like he believes in something like that. Unfortunately, for putting humans on the Moon, NASA doesn&#8217;t have a lot more to say than &#8220;Yes, we did&#8221;, aside from steroids.</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
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		<dc:creator>red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I posted some comments on Jeff&#039;s original &quot;Energy vs. Space&quot; article in the Space Review, as well as the &quot;Energy Apollo Program&quot; idea, at Space Prizes:

spaceprizes.blogspot.com/2008/07/energy-and-space-energy-vs-space.html

The bottom-line excerpt from that post is:

&quot;My take on it is that the bulk of NASA&#039;s space efforts should be directed at solving big problems that the public cares about - energy, environment, security, medical, and so on - using space and aeronautics.&quot;

I don&#039;t think any of these issues are flashes in the pan.  It&#039;s going to be awfully hard for NASA to continue on its path over the long term if it doesn&#039;t find some way to become relevant in publicly obvious ways in areas like these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I posted some comments on Jeff&#8217;s original &#8220;Energy vs. Space&#8221; article in the Space Review, as well as the &#8220;Energy Apollo Program&#8221; idea, at Space Prizes:</p>
<p>spaceprizes.blogspot.com/2008/07/energy-and-space-energy-vs-space.html</p>
<p>The bottom-line excerpt from that post is:</p>
<p>&#8220;My take on it is that the bulk of NASA&#8217;s space efforts should be directed at solving big problems that the public cares about &#8211; energy, environment, security, medical, and so on &#8211; using space and aeronautics.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any of these issues are flashes in the pan.  It&#8217;s going to be awfully hard for NASA to continue on its path over the long term if it doesn&#8217;t find some way to become relevant in publicly obvious ways in areas like these.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/07/18/more-on-energy-vs-space/comment-page-1/#comment-60447</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Lassiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff makes a good point here. To pick up on my earlier comment ...

Energy independence is the single issue that can compete for dollars with space exploration. At least in the near term it&#039;s about technology development (such that dollars spent go to the industrial sector), it&#039;s national security, as it addresses what is commonly perceived as a threat to our country. Achievement in it would be a strong point of national pride. It&#039;s an issue that can be expected to inspire youth to do engineering, science, and technology. There will be spinoffs  (low carbon Tang, maybe?) Finally, it&#039;s a damned expensive proposition that will involve some economic sacrifice.

Unlike space exploration, there are clear metrics for success, and the result actually touches everyone. The technology and infrastructure one develops in doing it is hugely marketable, as well.

Worth some thought how space exploration can best market itself given this new, or at least newly popular, issue. I will be interesting to watch the reaction of the aerospace industry to this &quot;bubble&quot;, in that if they see a future in it, their essential advocacy for space exploration will fade away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff makes a good point here. To pick up on my earlier comment &#8230;</p>
<p>Energy independence is the single issue that can compete for dollars with space exploration. At least in the near term it&#8217;s about technology development (such that dollars spent go to the industrial sector), it&#8217;s national security, as it addresses what is commonly perceived as a threat to our country. Achievement in it would be a strong point of national pride. It&#8217;s an issue that can be expected to inspire youth to do engineering, science, and technology. There will be spinoffs  (low carbon Tang, maybe?) Finally, it&#8217;s a damned expensive proposition that will involve some economic sacrifice.</p>
<p>Unlike space exploration, there are clear metrics for success, and the result actually touches everyone. The technology and infrastructure one develops in doing it is hugely marketable, as well.</p>
<p>Worth some thought how space exploration can best market itself given this new, or at least newly popular, issue. I will be interesting to watch the reaction of the aerospace industry to this &#8220;bubble&#8221;, in that if they see a future in it, their essential advocacy for space exploration will fade away.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Links - July 18th &#171; The Four Part Land</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Links - July 18th &#171; The Four Part Land</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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