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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; Obama to visit Florida&#8217;s Space Coast this weekend</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-377514</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Politics &#187; Obama to visit Florida&#8217;s Space Coast this weekend]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the 2008 campaign, Obama also visited the Space Coast, giving a speech in Titusville where he discussed space briefly. Obama&#8217;s Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, has not visited [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the 2008 campaign, Obama also visited the Space Coast, giving a speech in Titusville where he discussed space briefly. Obama&#8217;s Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, has not visited [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; A little slow on the uptake</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-89753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Politics &#187; A little slow on the uptake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] been nearly a month since Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama formally repudiated his previous position on the Constellation program (although he had been edging away from it from months in other remarks), which means that just [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] been nearly a month since Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama formally repudiated his previous position on the Constellation program (although he had been edging away from it from months in other remarks), which means that just [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; Space policy and the campaigns: recent developments</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-70067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Politics &#187; Space policy and the campaigns: recent developments]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Democratic candidate Barack Obama regarding Constellation and other issues. This is an expansion of a post on the issue I made a week ago immediately after his speech: that while it seemd like a dramatic shift, it was more of a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Democratic candidate Barack Obama regarding Constellation and other issues. This is an expansion of a post on the issue I made a week ago immediately after his speech: that while it seemd like a dramatic shift, it was more of a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve  Blythe</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-66671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve  Blythe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The hope for NASA that those of us in Titusville Saturday felt was that an Obama administration will not put science and technology on the back burner, and that because of that NASA will again have a well-recognized role. He said nothing specific, and don&#039;t fall for &quot;politician-speak&quot; - when he said he will make sure:  â€œthat all those who work in the space industry in Florida do not lose their jobs when the Shuttle is retiredâ€,  maybe he means exactly that - that ALL of them won&#039;t lose their jobs!  We know that ALL of them won&#039;t lose their jobs..... He didn&#039;t say that none of them would lose their job. After all, 1,000 work on heat-resistant shuttle tiles, which won&#039;t be used in the Constellation program. So if there are not enough jobs for those folks to be retrained for, they will lose their jobs.

Both candidates are being cautious on manned stations on the moon, which makes sense. We need to look carefully at a cost-benefit analysis and be working on getting our economy in order before borrowing billions from the Chinese to build on the moon. Meanwhile, we whould support 100% the scientific research mission of NASA, including ISS, Mars robotics, Hubble/Chandra/ etc., and earth sciences studies looking at global climate change. NASA has a huge role to play in our future and needs our support!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hope for NASA that those of us in Titusville Saturday felt was that an Obama administration will not put science and technology on the back burner, and that because of that NASA will again have a well-recognized role. He said nothing specific, and don&#8217;t fall for &#8220;politician-speak&#8221; &#8211; when he said he will make sure:  â€œthat all those who work in the space industry in Florida do not lose their jobs when the Shuttle is retiredâ€,  maybe he means exactly that &#8211; that ALL of them won&#8217;t lose their jobs!  We know that ALL of them won&#8217;t lose their jobs&#8230;.. He didn&#8217;t say that none of them would lose their job. After all, 1,000 work on heat-resistant shuttle tiles, which won&#8217;t be used in the Constellation program. So if there are not enough jobs for those folks to be retrained for, they will lose their jobs.</p>
<p>Both candidates are being cautious on manned stations on the moon, which makes sense. We need to look carefully at a cost-benefit analysis and be working on getting our economy in order before borrowing billions from the Chinese to build on the moon. Meanwhile, we whould support 100% the scientific research mission of NASA, including ISS, Mars robotics, Hubble/Chandra/ etc., and earth sciences studies looking at global climate change. NASA has a huge role to play in our future and needs our support!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve  Blythe</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-66650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve  Blythe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The hope for NASA that those of us in Titusville Saturday felt was that an Obama admnistration will not put science and technology on the back burner, and that because of that NASA will again have a well-recognized role. He said nothing specific, and don&#039;t fall for &quot;politician-speak&quot; - when he said he will make sure:  â€œthat all those who work in the space industry in Florida do not lose their jobs when the Shuttle is retiredâ€,  maybe he means exactly that - that ALL of them won&#039;t lose their jobs!  We know that ALL of them won&#039;t lose their jobs..... He didn&#039;t say that none of them would lose their job. After all, 1,000 work on heat-resistant shuttle tiles, whichwon&#039;t be used in the Constellation program. So if there are not enough jobs for those folks to be retrained for, they will lose their jobs.

Both candidates are being cautious on manned stations on the moon, which makes sense. We need to look carefully at a cost-benefit analysis and be working on getting our economy in order before borrowing billions from the Chinese to build on the moon. Meanwhile, we whould support 100% the scientific research mission of NASA, including ISS, Mars robotocs, Hubble/Chandra/ etc., and earth sciences studies lookng at glopbal clikmate change. NASA has a huge role to play in our future and needs our support!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hope for NASA that those of us in Titusville Saturday felt was that an Obama admnistration will not put science and technology on the back burner, and that because of that NASA will again have a well-recognized role. He said nothing specific, and don&#8217;t fall for &#8220;politician-speak&#8221; &#8211; when he said he will make sure:  â€œthat all those who work in the space industry in Florida do not lose their jobs when the Shuttle is retiredâ€,  maybe he means exactly that &#8211; that ALL of them won&#8217;t lose their jobs!  We know that ALL of them won&#8217;t lose their jobs&#8230;.. He didn&#8217;t say that none of them would lose their job. After all, 1,000 work on heat-resistant shuttle tiles, whichwon&#8217;t be used in the Constellation program. So if there are not enough jobs for those folks to be retrained for, they will lose their jobs.</p>
<p>Both candidates are being cautious on manned stations on the moon, which makes sense. We need to look carefully at a cost-benefit analysis and be working on getting our economy in order before borrowing billions from the Chinese to build on the moon. Meanwhile, we whould support 100% the scientific research mission of NASA, including ISS, Mars robotocs, Hubble/Chandra/ etc., and earth sciences studies lookng at glopbal clikmate change. NASA has a huge role to play in our future and needs our support!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So mark my words when a year from now you are crying at Obama gutting space for more important national priorities. As they say, good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement. I expect the space advocate community with gain a lot of experience in the next year by supporting Obama.&lt;/i&gt;

So, um, good idea. We should just not listen to what the candidates say, and come up with our own prejudices about what they&#039;re really thinking. Mind reading. What a concept! BTW, what was your bad judgment that led to your experience?

I&#039;m not concerned about a President &quot;gutting&quot; a space program (no, he wouldn&#039;t be &quot;gutting space&quot;) that has no compelling strategic vision or national value. But I am impressed with a President who would reevaluate what is really important about space to the nation, and exercise some judgment about national priorities. I don&#039;t put this past McCain, either. 

Er, did I understand that you were criticizing a presidential candidate for proposing to divert funds to &quot;more important national priorities&quot;? Why would a President NOT want to do that? I guess space exploration has to be established as an important national priority. This administration has simply not done that, and that&#039;s disappointing. In fact, it pretended that it was a national priority, as per Presidential Directive, and then rolled the whole program under the bus. (No Obama doesn&#039;t have a lock on using buses.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So mark my words when a year from now you are crying at Obama gutting space for more important national priorities. As they say, good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement. I expect the space advocate community with gain a lot of experience in the next year by supporting Obama.</i></p>
<p>So, um, good idea. We should just not listen to what the candidates say, and come up with our own prejudices about what they&#8217;re really thinking. Mind reading. What a concept! BTW, what was your bad judgment that led to your experience?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned about a President &#8220;gutting&#8221; a space program (no, he wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;gutting space&#8221;) that has no compelling strategic vision or national value. But I am impressed with a President who would reevaluate what is really important about space to the nation, and exercise some judgment about national priorities. I don&#8217;t put this past McCain, either. </p>
<p>Er, did I understand that you were criticizing a presidential candidate for proposing to divert funds to &#8220;more important national priorities&#8221;? Why would a President NOT want to do that? I guess space exploration has to be established as an important national priority. This administration has simply not done that, and that&#8217;s disappointing. In fact, it pretended that it was a national priority, as per Presidential Directive, and then rolled the whole program under the bus. (No Obama doesn&#8217;t have a lock on using buses.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nutty Libby</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-66024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nutty Libby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So mark my words when a year from now you are crying at Obama gutting&quot;

What? The national debt?

&quot;space for more important national priorities.&quot;

Like what, more war? More corporate welfare?

Your sworn enemy has stated he&#039;s going to preserve Constellation, the one thing that should be gutted. What&#039;s he gonna do, shut down SpaceX?

Get a grip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So mark my words when a year from now you are crying at Obama gutting&#8221;</p>
<p>What? The national debt?</p>
<p>&#8220;space for more important national priorities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like what, more war? More corporate welfare?</p>
<p>Your sworn enemy has stated he&#8217;s going to preserve Constellation, the one thing that should be gutted. What&#8217;s he gonna do, shut down SpaceX?</p>
<p>Get a grip.</p>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/08/03/evolutionary-not-revolutionary/#comment-65976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Someone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck2200 needs to understand that it was Obama volunteers who microanalyze every signature on his opponents documents and challenge as many as possible, for any reason possible, timing it so there would not be sufficient time for his opponents to correct any problems or do the same to his signatures. As a result the election commission did his dirty work for him. It was a tactic that Tricky Dick would have loved. 

Also are you aware that Alice Palmer was his political mentor prior to the election? She arranged for him to run for her seat and even helped him raise funds while she ran in the Democratic primary for Congress. She lost and switched to re-election for her old seat in the state senate, She expected Obama would keep his promise to drop-out if she had to run again for it. Of course he did what Obama does best, broke his promise and threw her under the bus by having his volunteers work to have her disqualified knowing he would lose big if she stayed in the race. Disposing of others were just frosting on the cake for Obama. 

Also I point the interesting coincidence that Obama won his Senate race by having both his opponent in the Democratic Primary and his major opponent in the general election self-destruct by having court ordered divorce documents unsealed. BTW in both cases the reason they were unsealed was a result of legal action by the Chicago Tribune where his several of his staff used to work. Really Tricky Dick and Old Richard J. would be proud of such election winning tactics. 

Again the context of this is that Obama does have a Record and its a Record of Obama doing ANYTHING needed to get elected. If that means promising Florida and the space advocate community the Moon, so be it. It will be easy enough to stiff them later. And nothing compared to what he has done in the past. Really, do your research on his past record. 

The space community will come to rue the day they fell for Obama, just as they now rue the day Griffin was named NASA Administrator. If I recalled the advocate community were jumping for joy that an engineer with a commercial space background was finally going to run NASA. Then they learned that it was probably the worst thing to ever happen to NASA and the VSE.

So mark my words when a year from now you are crying at Obama gutting space for more important national priorities. As they say, good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement. I expect the space advocate community with gain a lot of experience in the next year by supporting Obama. 

Ferris, this is probably your cue to now come in with the pro-Obama spin that he was just the innocent benefactor of his election opponents having an extraordinary series of unfortunate events. I wonâ€™t waste my time anymore here. You may do your Obama worshiping and NASA bashing unopposed. However will I come back after Obama breaks his promise and guts NASA to say with gusto I told you so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck2200 needs to understand that it was Obama volunteers who microanalyze every signature on his opponents documents and challenge as many as possible, for any reason possible, timing it so there would not be sufficient time for his opponents to correct any problems or do the same to his signatures. As a result the election commission did his dirty work for him. It was a tactic that Tricky Dick would have loved. </p>
<p>Also are you aware that Alice Palmer was his political mentor prior to the election? She arranged for him to run for her seat and even helped him raise funds while she ran in the Democratic primary for Congress. She lost and switched to re-election for her old seat in the state senate, She expected Obama would keep his promise to drop-out if she had to run again for it. Of course he did what Obama does best, broke his promise and threw her under the bus by having his volunteers work to have her disqualified knowing he would lose big if she stayed in the race. Disposing of others were just frosting on the cake for Obama. </p>
<p>Also I point the interesting coincidence that Obama won his Senate race by having both his opponent in the Democratic Primary and his major opponent in the general election self-destruct by having court ordered divorce documents unsealed. BTW in both cases the reason they were unsealed was a result of legal action by the Chicago Tribune where his several of his staff used to work. Really Tricky Dick and Old Richard J. would be proud of such election winning tactics. </p>
<p>Again the context of this is that Obama does have a Record and its a Record of Obama doing ANYTHING needed to get elected. If that means promising Florida and the space advocate community the Moon, so be it. It will be easy enough to stiff them later. And nothing compared to what he has done in the past. Really, do your research on his past record. </p>
<p>The space community will come to rue the day they fell for Obama, just as they now rue the day Griffin was named NASA Administrator. If I recalled the advocate community were jumping for joy that an engineer with a commercial space background was finally going to run NASA. Then they learned that it was probably the worst thing to ever happen to NASA and the VSE.</p>
<p>So mark my words when a year from now you are crying at Obama gutting space for more important national priorities. As they say, good judgement comes from experience and experience comes from bad judgement. I expect the space advocate community with gain a lot of experience in the next year by supporting Obama. </p>
<p>Ferris, this is probably your cue to now come in with the pro-Obama spin that he was just the innocent benefactor of his election opponents having an extraordinary series of unfortunate events. I wonâ€™t waste my time anymore here. You may do your Obama worshiping and NASA bashing unopposed. However will I come back after Obama breaks his promise and guts NASA to say with gusto I told you so.</p>
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		<title>By: The Daily Links - August 4th &#171; The Four Part Land</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Daily Links - August 4th &#171; The Four Part Land]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chuck2200</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck2200]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Someone&quot; needs to recognize that people are not disqualified by an opposing candidate. They are disqualified by the election comminnsion in the state where they are running. Disqualification is based on laws, not on a running candidates wishes. Those people were disqualified to run because they were not qualified, by law, to run. Nothing more. 

It is incumbant on anyone who wants to run for office to fullfil the qualifications for running for office. If they don&#039;t, or can&#039;t, it is not the fault of the remaining candidate(s). It is their own stupidity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Someone&#8221; needs to recognize that people are not disqualified by an opposing candidate. They are disqualified by the election comminnsion in the state where they are running. Disqualification is based on laws, not on a running candidates wishes. Those people were disqualified to run because they were not qualified, by law, to run. Nothing more. </p>
<p>It is incumbant on anyone who wants to run for office to fullfil the qualifications for running for office. If they don&#8217;t, or can&#8217;t, it is not the fault of the remaining candidate(s). It is their own stupidity.</p>
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