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	<title>Comments on: Nelson: Keep Griffin, for now</title>
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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; Transition turmoil</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/07/nelson-keep-griffin-for-now/#comment-152094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Politics &#187; Transition turmoil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] whether to keep Griffin in office for some period of time after Obama takes office (something that Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) had requested earlier this month, it now seems exceedingly unlikely that Griffin will be there after January 20, even if his [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] whether to keep Griffin in office for some period of time after Obama takes office (something that Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) had requested earlier this month, it now seems exceedingly unlikely that Griffin will be there after January 20, even if his [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/07/nelson-keep-griffin-for-now/#comment-142251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man and here I thought I was out there on some positions.

I stated a couple years ago about how I thought Dr. Griffin had, for whatever reasons, changed a fundamental philosophy he had when it came to heavy lift, i.e. he had switched from liquid to SRB&#039;s.

He also stated in that memo that was &quot;leaked&quot; that the current administration had a jihad going to end the shuttle program. A March 2005 Space Review article about Griffin&#039;s nomination to become the new head of NASA he is quoted as saying: â€œwe should move to replace this system with all deliberate speed.â€

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/339/1

So I find the jihad statement kind of disingenious. He was also quite skeptical of the costs that congress said a return to the moon would cost, but under his management it looks like he is making all those naysayers words come true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man and here I thought I was out there on some positions.</p>
<p>I stated a couple years ago about how I thought Dr. Griffin had, for whatever reasons, changed a fundamental philosophy he had when it came to heavy lift, i.e. he had switched from liquid to SRB&#8217;s.</p>
<p>He also stated in that memo that was &#8220;leaked&#8221; that the current administration had a jihad going to end the shuttle program. A March 2005 Space Review article about Griffin&#8217;s nomination to become the new head of NASA he is quoted as saying: â€œwe should move to replace this system with all deliberate speed.â€</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thespacereview.com/article/339/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.thespacereview.com/article/339/1</a></p>
<p>So I find the jihad statement kind of disingenious. He was also quite skeptical of the costs that congress said a return to the moon would cost, but under his management it looks like he is making all those naysayers words come true.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck2200</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/07/nelson-keep-griffin-for-now/#comment-141748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck2200]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s supposed to be. Personally, I don&#039;t want to see him kept on because, in spite of his many fine attributes which do recommend him, he seemingly has his head in the sand when it comes to his Ares program. He came into NASA with Ares already gelled in his mind before any real analysis was done, and has so far ignored every standard of past vehicles for when a program is cancelled. Ares has long sense past those milestones, yet he keeps it alive in spite of the burgeoning costs, the rapidly expanding schedule and totally unnecessary technical difficulties. He continues with an Ares architecture, in spite of all the evidence that it needs to be replaced. It is obvious, at least to me, that Ares won&#039;t survive his tenure. 

Ares will die, and if thatâ€™s going to happen, Iâ€™d rather it be sooner rather than later so that we can change gears and get on with it. Dr Griffin does not appear to be willing to change gears, so Iâ€™d like to see a new Administrator who will take stock of everything and then take us down a different path to the VSE. I have no idea who that person may be, but it needs to be someone who will â€œadministerâ€ and leave the â€œengineeringâ€ to the engineers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s supposed to be. Personally, I don&#8217;t want to see him kept on because, in spite of his many fine attributes which do recommend him, he seemingly has his head in the sand when it comes to his Ares program. He came into NASA with Ares already gelled in his mind before any real analysis was done, and has so far ignored every standard of past vehicles for when a program is cancelled. Ares has long sense past those milestones, yet he keeps it alive in spite of the burgeoning costs, the rapidly expanding schedule and totally unnecessary technical difficulties. He continues with an Ares architecture, in spite of all the evidence that it needs to be replaced. It is obvious, at least to me, that Ares won&#8217;t survive his tenure. </p>
<p>Ares will die, and if thatâ€™s going to happen, Iâ€™d rather it be sooner rather than later so that we can change gears and get on with it. Dr Griffin does not appear to be willing to change gears, so Iâ€™d like to see a new Administrator who will take stock of everything and then take us down a different path to the VSE. I have no idea who that person may be, but it needs to be someone who will â€œadministerâ€ and leave the â€œengineeringâ€ to the engineers.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Lurker</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/07/nelson-keep-griffin-for-now/#comment-141716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Lurker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought this thread was about Dr. Griffin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this thread was about Dr. Griffin.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/07/nelson-keep-griffin-for-now/#comment-141710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;You have clearly lost your mind Elifritz.&lt;/em&gt;

Years ago, assuming that he was ever sane.  He&#039;s been in most people&#039;s killfiles on Usenet for many years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You have clearly lost your mind Elifritz.</em></p>
<p>Years ago, assuming that he was ever sane.  He&#8217;s been in most people&#8217;s killfiles on Usenet for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: anon-7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon-7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have clearly lost your mind Elifritz.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have clearly lost your mind Elifritz.</p>
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		<title>By: Banneth Dissenters</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Banneth Dissenters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Georgeth Wth. Busheth and Michael Griffeth banned all dissent as well, and we can all see how well that turned out. You are technologically illiterate.

You hate America and Americans for their freedoms. We will track you down on your pathetic blogs, and root you out of your cubicles, and blob you.

Mercilessly. In a Web 2.0 World. Your &#039;pathetic&#039; era is over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgeth Wth. Busheth and Michael Griffeth banned all dissent as well, and we can all see how well that turned out. You are technologically illiterate.</p>
<p>You hate America and Americans for their freedoms. We will track you down on your pathetic blogs, and root you out of your cubicles, and blob you.</p>
<p>Mercilessly. In a Web 2.0 World. Your &#8216;pathetic&#8217; era is over.</p>
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		<title>By: anon-7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon-7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Elifritz - this is one of the best space policy blogs around.  Don&#039;t spoil it with your delusional rantings.  &quot;Tough love&quot; for you ought to be banning from this site which, if I am not mistaken, the owner has just done.  Or are you too stupid to figure that out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Elifritz &#8211; this is one of the best space policy blogs around.  Don&#8217;t spoil it with your delusional rantings.  &#8220;Tough love&#8221; for you ought to be banning from this site which, if I am not mistaken, the owner has just done.  Or are you too stupid to figure that out?</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not like it&#039;s a new attitude, Jeff.  There&#039;s really no solution except to delete the creature&#039;s posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s a new attitude, Jeff.  There&#8217;s really no solution except to delete the creature&#8217;s posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Tough Love</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/07/nelson-keep-griffin-for-now/#comment-141582</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tough Love]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After eight years of Bush, I have every right to have a bad attitude, and contrary to Mr. Bush&#039;s policies, my bad attitude hasn&#039;t hurt you or anyone else, on the contrary, it has helped you out immensely. Get used to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After eight years of Bush, I have every right to have a bad attitude, and contrary to Mr. Bush&#8217;s policies, my bad attitude hasn&#8217;t hurt you or anyone else, on the contrary, it has helped you out immensely. Get used to it.</p>
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