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	<title>Comments on: European space policy and budgets</title>
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		<title>By: Library: A Round-up of Reading &#171; Res Communis</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-148997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Library: A Round-up of Reading &#171; Res Communis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] European space policy and budgets &#8211; Space Politics [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-148162</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vladislaw: &quot;The more companies competing the better.&quot;

I&#039;d agree with that if what ESA is doing is encouraging a European commercial company to develop this service.  My (unverified) assumption was that it would be an ESA government effort similar to the Shuttle or Ares in the U.S.  It seems to me that space agencies should be concentrating on new areas without current commercial viability, while encouraging and using commercial services for traditional areas like LEO transportation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladislaw: &#8220;The more companies competing the better.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d agree with that if what ESA is doing is encouraging a European commercial company to develop this service.  My (unverified) assumption was that it would be an ESA government effort similar to the Shuttle or Ares in the U.S.  It seems to me that space agencies should be concentrating on new areas without current commercial viability, while encouraging and using commercial services for traditional areas like LEO transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-148085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I hope they do the down cargo capability and even add the manned option they have discussed.

The more companies competing the better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I hope they do the down cargo capability and even add the manned option they have discussed.</p>
<p>The more companies competing the better.</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-148018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t it be better for Europe to skip the ATV cargo return capability (which SpaceX and Orbital are already working on), and do something that commercial space isn&#039;t doing?  From a prestige point of view, having a continent try to match a little company is underwhelming.  From a usefulness point of view ... well, if it&#039;s government competing with existing commercial space efforts (including Orbital&#039;s MPLM-derived - i.e. European - cargo modules), it could actually be destructive.

Instead of efforts to match SpaceX and Orbital, why doesn&#039;t ESA try something useful, impressive, and currently non-commercial?  Maybe an orbiting propellant depot, space tug, solar sail demo, space beamed power demo, robotic demo of satellite maintenance beyond what&#039;s been done so far, or something like that would be better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be better for Europe to skip the ATV cargo return capability (which SpaceX and Orbital are already working on), and do something that commercial space isn&#8217;t doing?  From a prestige point of view, having a continent try to match a little company is underwhelming.  From a usefulness point of view &#8230; well, if it&#8217;s government competing with existing commercial space efforts (including Orbital&#8217;s MPLM-derived &#8211; i.e. European &#8211; cargo modules), it could actually be destructive.</p>
<p>Instead of efforts to match SpaceX and Orbital, why doesn&#8217;t ESA try something useful, impressive, and currently non-commercial?  Maybe an orbiting propellant depot, space tug, solar sail demo, space beamed power demo, robotic demo of satellite maintenance beyond what&#8217;s been done so far, or something like that would be better.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-147774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although it says you should, in the &quot;HTML-Tags:&quot; below - please correct that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it says you should, in the &#8220;HTML-Tags:&#8221; below &#8211; please correct that.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-147773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/press-rel/pr-2008/pr-43-08.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the link to the Roadmap&lt;/a&gt; - so you are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to put the URL in parentheses?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s <a href="http://www.eso.org/public/outreach/press-rel/pr-2008/pr-43-08.html" rel="nofollow">the link to the Roadmap</a> &#8211; so you are <i>not</i> to put the URL in parentheses?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/25/european-space-policy-and-budgets/#comment-147772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An interesting ... coincidence? Just today, on the first day of the meeting, the &lt;a&gt;&#039;Roadmap&#039; for Europe&#039;s astronomy&lt;/a&gt; was made public - which also sets priorities for ESA&#039;s future astronomy missions. Which, according to many pre-meeting reports in &lt;i&gt;Nature&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;AW&amp;ST&lt;/i&gt; might be facing delays in The Hague ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting &#8230; coincidence? Just today, on the first day of the meeting, the <a>&#8216;Roadmap&#8217; for Europe&#8217;s astronomy</a> was made public &#8211; which also sets priorities for ESA&#8217;s future astronomy missions. Which, according to many pre-meeting reports in <i>Nature</i> or <i>AW&amp;ST</i> might be facing delays in The Hague &#8230;</p>
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