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		<title>By: Chuck Black</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/26/towards-a-canadian-space-policy/#comment-152075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also believe it is a mistake to think that every facet related to the construction and roll out of a Canadian based launch vehicle needs to be developed from scratch (Who ever said it had to be?). 

But I do believe that monetary considerations are an important part of the discussion (and you said yourself that you donâ€™t want to add components that would â€œbankrupt the CSA fundingâ€)

Bringing money into the conversation allows us to move into broader policy discussions relating to the roll of science and technology as a source of national competitive advantage and the need to encourage greater public and private sector S&amp;T investment. This is something that Canadian governments usually understand and respond too. 

Besides, have you read the article at http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html. Evidently the new US administration is re-assessing all facets of the ongoing US space program. 

Canada is likely going to do the same whenever our government gets its act together.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also believe it is a mistake to think that every facet related to the construction and roll out of a Canadian based launch vehicle needs to be developed from scratch (Who ever said it had to be?). </p>
<p>But I do believe that monetary considerations are an important part of the discussion (and you said yourself that you donâ€™t want to add components that would â€œbankrupt the CSA fundingâ€)</p>
<p>Bringing money into the conversation allows us to move into broader policy discussions relating to the roll of science and technology as a source of national competitive advantage and the need to encourage greater public and private sector S&amp;T investment. This is something that Canadian governments usually understand and respond too. </p>
<p>Besides, have you read the article at <a href="http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html</a>. Evidently the new US administration is re-assessing all facets of the ongoing US space program. </p>
<p>Canada is likely going to do the same whenever our government gets its act together.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Swift]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For Canada to develop its own launch capability beyond that offered by Bristol and the Black Brant sub orbital series, I believe it is a mistake to think that every facet of this endeavour be developed ab initio, or from scratch.

There are a raft of sub contractors and suppliers worldwide, all of whom are trading partners with Canada, and all of whom have developed some aspect of launch capability, often at considerable expense and extensive trial and error. Why not select what parts of an orbital infrastructure we can design to our requirements, including launch vehicles, and not reinvent the wheel when it comes to components which would bankrupt the CSA funding as it is?

Examples are the French rocket motor companies, the Russians, the Americans, Brits, Indians, and Japanese.

Like strap-on boosters, treat the design process as constrained by the tools available. Even the giant NASA and its subcontractors use what is available when they can. If the Ares needs more lift, incorporate an additional lift component. If we need a more robust unit, contact another supplier. if its not available &#039;off the shelf&#039;, leave it out of the equation.

Monetary considerations are at the bottom of this; technical feasiblity is assured to the extent it can be; only the operational and political issues need be resolved once it has been established that a Canadian launch capability is indeed what is needed to provide some longer term planning reference and a concrete foundation upon which the specific flight goals can be formulated.

Whether we focus on Earth observation, scientific research, participation in a Moon or Mars initiative or more ambitious space endeavours, a launch vehicle design and build capability will give the Canadian people and the companies based here a substantial and real reason to maintain their interest and planning for an ongoin Canadian presence in space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Canada to develop its own launch capability beyond that offered by Bristol and the Black Brant sub orbital series, I believe it is a mistake to think that every facet of this endeavour be developed ab initio, or from scratch.</p>
<p>There are a raft of sub contractors and suppliers worldwide, all of whom are trading partners with Canada, and all of whom have developed some aspect of launch capability, often at considerable expense and extensive trial and error. Why not select what parts of an orbital infrastructure we can design to our requirements, including launch vehicles, and not reinvent the wheel when it comes to components which would bankrupt the CSA funding as it is?</p>
<p>Examples are the French rocket motor companies, the Russians, the Americans, Brits, Indians, and Japanese.</p>
<p>Like strap-on boosters, treat the design process as constrained by the tools available. Even the giant NASA and its subcontractors use what is available when they can. If the Ares needs more lift, incorporate an additional lift component. If we need a more robust unit, contact another supplier. if its not available &#8216;off the shelf&#8217;, leave it out of the equation.</p>
<p>Monetary considerations are at the bottom of this; technical feasiblity is assured to the extent it can be; only the operational and political issues need be resolved once it has been established that a Canadian launch capability is indeed what is needed to provide some longer term planning reference and a concrete foundation upon which the specific flight goals can be formulated.</p>
<p>Whether we focus on Earth observation, scientific research, participation in a Moon or Mars initiative or more ambitious space endeavours, a launch vehicle design and build capability will give the Canadian people and the companies based here a substantial and real reason to maintain their interest and planning for an ongoin Canadian presence in space.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Black</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/26/towards-a-canadian-space-policy/#comment-149471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The previous weekend, Garneau had been the keynote speaker at the Canadian Space Summit where he had provided much the same sort of insite to the 150 attendees and speakers representing industry, academia policy experts attempting to answer the question &quot;What&#039;s Next for Canada&#039;s Space Industry?&quot; 

Some of the other speakers, perhaps unrestricted by policy considerations had more specific suggestions on what they felt should be a component of Canadian space policy.

CSCA gave a presentation on why Canada needs its own independent launch capability and how this could be justified on national security, scientific and especially business grounds (for example, it would cost about as much as an extra Canadian icebreaker and would contribute far more towards policing the high arctic). 

An aerospace executive gave a presentation on how space based industries are essentially the R&amp;D arm of aerospace and why Canadian aerospace industries are foolish to ignore this subset.

MDA gave a presentation on something called â€œflow through tax creditsâ€ how they are presently used in the Canadian mining industry to fund high risk, high cost ventures with a long lead time for ROI and how their use for aerospace R&amp;D could expand and grow Canadian space based research and industries exponentially. 

An finally, the Rideau Group discussed the lack of a national space policy (which makes it difficult for industry to plan ahead) and listing the best politicians in Canada to talk with on aerospace R&amp;D and industrial infrastructure issues (oddly enough, Marc Garneau wasn&#039;t the only politician on the list). 

The conference link is at http://spacecommerce.ca/events/canadian-space-summit/ for anyone who&#039;d like to take a look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous weekend, Garneau had been the keynote speaker at the Canadian Space Summit where he had provided much the same sort of insite to the 150 attendees and speakers representing industry, academia policy experts attempting to answer the question &#8220;What&#8217;s Next for Canada&#8217;s Space Industry?&#8221; </p>
<p>Some of the other speakers, perhaps unrestricted by policy considerations had more specific suggestions on what they felt should be a component of Canadian space policy.</p>
<p>CSCA gave a presentation on why Canada needs its own independent launch capability and how this could be justified on national security, scientific and especially business grounds (for example, it would cost about as much as an extra Canadian icebreaker and would contribute far more towards policing the high arctic). </p>
<p>An aerospace executive gave a presentation on how space based industries are essentially the R&amp;D arm of aerospace and why Canadian aerospace industries are foolish to ignore this subset.</p>
<p>MDA gave a presentation on something called â€œflow through tax creditsâ€ how they are presently used in the Canadian mining industry to fund high risk, high cost ventures with a long lead time for ROI and how their use for aerospace R&amp;D could expand and grow Canadian space based research and industries exponentially. </p>
<p>An finally, the Rideau Group discussed the lack of a national space policy (which makes it difficult for industry to plan ahead) and listing the best politicians in Canada to talk with on aerospace R&amp;D and industrial infrastructure issues (oddly enough, Marc Garneau wasn&#8217;t the only politician on the list). </p>
<p>The conference link is at <a href="http://spacecommerce.ca/events/canadian-space-summit/" rel="nofollow">http://spacecommerce.ca/events/canadian-space-summit/</a> for anyone who&#8217;d like to take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Fansome</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/26/towards-a-canadian-space-policy/#comment-148553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Fansome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GARNEAU: &lt;i&gt;[A] space policy should essentially answer the fundamental question, which is what can space offer to us here in Canada?&lt;/i&gt;

That is a good question wherever you live.

For America, the question should be &quot;what can space offer to us here in America?&quot;

The most effective answer should be an elevator speech -- a few sentences that clearly communicate the unequivocal benefit of investing taxpayer dollars in space.

A laundry list of talking points -- e.g., throwing every idea at the wall and hoping that something sticks -- is not an elevator pitch.  Nor is it effective.

- Al

&quot;Politics is not rocket science, which is why rocket scientists do not understand politics&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GARNEAU: <i>[A] space policy should essentially answer the fundamental question, which is what can space offer to us here in Canada?</i></p>
<p>That is a good question wherever you live.</p>
<p>For America, the question should be &#8220;what can space offer to us here in America?&#8221;</p>
<p>The most effective answer should be an elevator speech &#8212; a few sentences that clearly communicate the unequivocal benefit of investing taxpayer dollars in space.</p>
<p>A laundry list of talking points &#8212; e.g., throwing every idea at the wall and hoping that something sticks &#8212; is not an elevator pitch.  Nor is it effective.</p>
<p>&#8211; Al</p>
<p>&#8220;Politics is not rocket science, which is why rocket scientists do not understand politics&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/11/26/towards-a-canadian-space-policy/#comment-148084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 01:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should fund their own X prize,it is a price range they could handle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should fund their own X prize,it is a price range they could handle.</p>
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