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	<title>Comments on: NASA situation &#8220;as bad as it&#8217;s been in the last 10 to 15 years&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Space News</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/09/nasa-situation-as-its-been-in-the-last-10-to-15-years/#comment-157972</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post and I would like to add the following. Cost overruns are only part of the basic problem at NASA. The problem with NASA is that it has been dragging it&#039;s feet for to long. Year after year, and decade after decade, of low earth orbit would make any common American citizen bored of what NASA is doing. The only really exciting science related stuff has come from the unmanned Mars robotic rovers Spirit and Opportunity, which have been enormously successful, and relatively cheap. The problem is only scientists and technical people get excited about Spirit and Opportunity. If NASA wants to gain the backing of the American people, they need to speed up the process of human exploration of space. Back in the Apollo days, we went to the moon within a 9 year period. Today, it can take 9 years just to get a NASA program approved by Congress. At the rate that NASA is going, private enterprise will pass it in terms of getting humans back into space exploration. And if not private enterprise, then China will gladly take the role of a global leader in space exploration. For news about space visit &lt;a href=&quot;http://american-space-news.top-seo-solutions.com/&quot; title=&quot;Space News - Headlines For the Space Enthusiast &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Space News - Headlines For the Space Enthusiast &lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post and I would like to add the following. Cost overruns are only part of the basic problem at NASA. The problem with NASA is that it has been dragging it&#8217;s feet for to long. Year after year, and decade after decade, of low earth orbit would make any common American citizen bored of what NASA is doing. The only really exciting science related stuff has come from the unmanned Mars robotic rovers Spirit and Opportunity, which have been enormously successful, and relatively cheap. The problem is only scientists and technical people get excited about Spirit and Opportunity. If NASA wants to gain the backing of the American people, they need to speed up the process of human exploration of space. Back in the Apollo days, we went to the moon within a 9 year period. Today, it can take 9 years just to get a NASA program approved by Congress. At the rate that NASA is going, private enterprise will pass it in terms of getting humans back into space exploration. And if not private enterprise, then China will gladly take the role of a global leader in space exploration. For news about space visit <a href="http://american-space-news.top-seo-solutions.com/" title="Space News - Headlines For the Space Enthusiast " rel="nofollow">Space News &#8211; Headlines For the Space Enthusiast </a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Library: A Round-up of Reading &#171; Res Communis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] NASA situation â€œas itâ€™s been in the last 10 to 15 yearsâ€ - Space Politics [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] NASA situation â€œas itâ€™s been in the last 10 to 15 yearsâ€ &#8211; Space Politics [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: A little Friday dustup &#171; Geordi Calrissian</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/09/nasa-situation-as-its-been-in-the-last-10-to-15-years/#comment-152504</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] be going on if there weren&#8217;t the big drags on the department budget due to some colossal cost overruns: space shuttle (keep or replace), ISS (finish and expand or abandon), MSL (now we have to wait two [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] be going on if there weren&#8217;t the big drags on the department budget due to some colossal cost overruns: space shuttle (keep or replace), ISS (finish and expand or abandon), MSL (now we have to wait two [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; More on &#8220;saving&#8221; NASA Langley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Politics &#187; More on &#8220;saving&#8221; NASA Langley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] article in today&#8217;s Daily Press newspaper follows up on an earlier report about concerns people in the Hampton Roads region have about the future of NASA&#8217;s Langley Rese.... &#8220;About 20 people&#8221; gathered at a luncheon organized by William Harvey, president of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] article in today&#8217;s Daily Press newspaper follows up on an earlier report about concerns people in the Hampton Roads region have about the future of NASA&#8217;s Langley Rese&#8230;. &#8220;About 20 people&#8221; gathered at a luncheon organized by William Harvey, president of [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: KDH</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope people will realize the Moon/Mars program will need some tweaking given the current financial climate.  I encourage everyone to look at the Planetary Society&#039;s &quot;Road Map to Space&quot; plan.  It deemphasises the Moon in favor of Earth monitoring and getting Constellation up and running all the while keeping Mars the long term goal.  I think this plan is something all of us space enthusiasts can embrace due to it&#039;s realist look at the future.  My greatest fear is that we focus so much on the Moon that a base there becomes the only think NASA can afford and all other priorities take a back seat.  Just look to the Shuttle and the ISS for examples of cost overruns and delays that can hurt everything NASA does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope people will realize the Moon/Mars program will need some tweaking given the current financial climate.  I encourage everyone to look at the Planetary Society&#8217;s &#8220;Road Map to Space&#8221; plan.  It deemphasises the Moon in favor of Earth monitoring and getting Constellation up and running all the while keeping Mars the long term goal.  I think this plan is something all of us space enthusiasts can embrace due to it&#8217;s realist look at the future.  My greatest fear is that we focus so much on the Moon that a base there becomes the only think NASA can afford and all other priorities take a back seat.  Just look to the Shuttle and the ISS for examples of cost overruns and delays that can hurt everything NASA does.</p>
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		<title>By: And there goes the Moon, or &#8220;Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire!&#8221; &#171; Space Cynics</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And there goes the Moon, or &#8220;Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire!&#8221; &#171; Space Cynics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to Al Fansome for pointing this out (initially on the SpacePolitics.com website, from which this was shamelessly pilfered). Tensions were on public display last week at the NASA [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] to Al Fansome for pointing this out (initially on the SpacePolitics.com website, from which this was shamelessly pilfered). Tensions were on public display last week at the NASA [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Al Fansome</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al Fansome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff,

You need to create a topic about the following story from Orlando Sentinel.  It is unbelievable.

You have to read the entire story, but I have copied some excerpts here to wet your appetite.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;NASA has become a transition problem for Obama&lt;/b&gt;
posted by Robert Block on Dec 10, 2008 9:36:41 PM

CAPE CANAVERAL â€“ NASA administrator Mike Griffin is not cooperating with President-elect Barack Obamaâ€™s transition team, is obstructing its efforts to get information and has told its leader that she is â€œnot qualifiedâ€ to judge his rocket program, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.

In a heated 40-minute conversation last week with Lori Garver, a former NASA associate administrator who heads the space transition team, a red-faced Griffin demanded to speak directly to Obama, according to witnesses.

In addition, Griffin is scripting NASA employees and civilian contractors on what they can tell the transition team and has warned aerospace executives not to criticize the agencyâ€™s moon program, sources said.

Griffinâ€™s resistance is part of a no-holds-barred effort to preserve the Constellation program, the delayed and over-budget moon rocket that is his signature project.

...

Tensions were on public display last week at the NASA library, as overheard by guests at a book party.

According to people who were present, Logsdon, a space historian, told a group of about 50 people he had just learned that President John F. Kennedyâ€™s transition team had completely ignored NASA.

Griffin responded, in a loud voice, â€œI wish the Obama team would come and talk to me.â€

Alan Ladwig, a transition team member who was at the party with Garver, shouted out: â€œWell, weâ€™re here now, Mike.â€

Soon after, Garver and Griffin engaged in what witnesses said was an animated conversation. Some overheard parts of it.

&lt;b&gt;â€œMike, I donâ€™t understand what the problem is. We are just trying to look under the hood,â€ Garver said.

â€œIf you are looking under the hood, then you are calling me a liar,â€ Griffin replied. â€œBecause it means you donâ€™t trust what I say is under the hood.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

FWIW,

- Al

&lt;b&gt;Politics is not rocket science, which is why rocket scientists (e.g. Mike Griffin) does not understand politics.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>You need to create a topic about the following story from Orlando Sentinel.  It is unbelievable.</p>
<p>You have to read the entire story, but I have copied some excerpts here to wet your appetite.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/12/nasa-has-become.html</a></p>
<p><i><b>NASA has become a transition problem for Obama</b><br />
posted by Robert Block on Dec 10, 2008 9:36:41 PM</p>
<p>CAPE CANAVERAL â€“ NASA administrator Mike Griffin is not cooperating with President-elect Barack Obamaâ€™s transition team, is obstructing its efforts to get information and has told its leader that she is â€œnot qualifiedâ€ to judge his rocket program, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.</p>
<p>In a heated 40-minute conversation last week with Lori Garver, a former NASA associate administrator who heads the space transition team, a red-faced Griffin demanded to speak directly to Obama, according to witnesses.</p>
<p>In addition, Griffin is scripting NASA employees and civilian contractors on what they can tell the transition team and has warned aerospace executives not to criticize the agencyâ€™s moon program, sources said.</p>
<p>Griffinâ€™s resistance is part of a no-holds-barred effort to preserve the Constellation program, the delayed and over-budget moon rocket that is his signature project.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Tensions were on public display last week at the NASA library, as overheard by guests at a book party.</p>
<p>According to people who were present, Logsdon, a space historian, told a group of about 50 people he had just learned that President John F. Kennedyâ€™s transition team had completely ignored NASA.</p>
<p>Griffin responded, in a loud voice, â€œI wish the Obama team would come and talk to me.â€</p>
<p>Alan Ladwig, a transition team member who was at the party with Garver, shouted out: â€œWell, weâ€™re here now, Mike.â€</p>
<p>Soon after, Garver and Griffin engaged in what witnesses said was an animated conversation. Some overheard parts of it.</p>
<p><b>â€œMike, I donâ€™t understand what the problem is. We are just trying to look under the hood,â€ Garver said.</p>
<p>â€œIf you are looking under the hood, then you are calling me a liar,â€ Griffin replied. â€œBecause it means you donâ€™t trust what I say is under the hood.</b></i></p>
<p>FWIW,</p>
<p>&#8211; Al</p>
<p><b>Politics is not rocket science, which is why rocket scientists (e.g. Mike Griffin) does not understand politics.&#8221;</b></p>
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