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		<title>By: ellenlangsetmo</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-283976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ellenlangsetmo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[increase nasa funding restore projects creat new ones like the solid state gravitic drive prepulsion system]]></description>
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		<title>By: On Autopilot - Transterrestrial Musings</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-169943</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On Autopilot - Transterrestrial Musings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] think that this is a reflection on his intelligence so much as his focus. There have been arguments over at Space Politics over how much culpability the administration has in the developing disaster of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] think that this is a reflection on his intelligence so much as his focus. There have been arguments over at Space Politics over how much culpability the administration has in the developing disaster of [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-169146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is ridiculous.  Mike Griffin didn&#039;t have the good leadership in the White House, had to make tough decisions with what he was dealt because of that, and he did.  I can live with those decisions and hope there is better leadership in the future, and I&#039;m fine with keeping Griffin.  I probably would have made the same ones he did.  Think of the broader NASA goals.  I think he&#039;s unfairly cast in a bad light due to the situation.  I think Congressman Gordon&#039;s quote tells it all, â€œIâ€™ve been pleased with the working relationship with Dr. Griffin,â€ he said, as reported by Aerospace Daily, adding that while Griffin can be blunt, he â€œunderstands what heâ€™s doing, in contrast to previous administrations.â€  He&#039;s doing well in this crappy situation and would do great in a decent situation.  Here&#039;s to hoping the &quot;decent situation&quot; comes soon and that he isn&#039;t let go unnecessarily.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.  Mike Griffin didn&#8217;t have the good leadership in the White House, had to make tough decisions with what he was dealt because of that, and he did.  I can live with those decisions and hope there is better leadership in the future, and I&#8217;m fine with keeping Griffin.  I probably would have made the same ones he did.  Think of the broader NASA goals.  I think he&#8217;s unfairly cast in a bad light due to the situation.  I think Congressman Gordon&#8217;s quote tells it all, â€œIâ€™ve been pleased with the working relationship with Dr. Griffin,â€ he said, as reported by Aerospace Daily, adding that while Griffin can be blunt, he â€œunderstands what heâ€™s doing, in contrast to previous administrations.â€  He&#8217;s doing well in this crappy situation and would do great in a decent situation.  Here&#8217;s to hoping the &#8220;decent situation&#8221; comes soon and that he isn&#8217;t let go unnecessarily.</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-163846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On top of all of the pro and anti NASA Administrator petitions that have been discussed, here&#039;s another one:

www.petitiononline.com/griffout/petition.html

This one is quite different from the others in that it focuses on Dr. Griffin&#039;s NPR climate change comments and Earth monitoring reductions and opposes human spaceflight.  I imagine that the signers would be a mostly or entirely different set of people since the reasons outlined in the petitions are so different.

For whatever it&#039;s worth (very little I suspect), right now there are 205 signatures on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On top of all of the pro and anti NASA Administrator petitions that have been discussed, here&#8217;s another one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/griffout/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/griffout/petition.html</a></p>
<p>This one is quite different from the others in that it focuses on Dr. Griffin&#8217;s NPR climate change comments and Earth monitoring reductions and opposes human spaceflight.  I imagine that the signers would be a mostly or entirely different set of people since the reasons outlined in the petitions are so different.</p>
<p>For whatever it&#8217;s worth (very little I suspect), right now there are 205 signatures on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-162575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;And, youâ€™re saying, thatâ€™s why Griffin was at fault in all this. Because the administration â€œwent on auto-pilotâ€ because they had more urgent issues to deal with. Ahh, I see â€¦&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m saying that &lt;b&gt;there is fault to go around&lt;/b&gt;.  Is it your (absurd) claim that Mike Griffin is blameless?

&lt;em&gt;...if the intent of the Vision was to just heave billions at NASA, and let NASA figure out the implementation, why was the Aldridge Commission even constituted to report to the WH?&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not saying that was the intent of the vision.  The intent of the vision was for NASA to figure out the implementation using guidance from the Aldridge Commission.  Which it did until Mike Griffin took over, at which point, the Aldridge Commission was completely ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And, youâ€™re saying, thatâ€™s why Griffin was at fault in all this. Because the administration â€œwent on auto-pilotâ€ because they had more urgent issues to deal with. Ahh, I see â€¦</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m saying that <b>there is fault to go around</b>.  Is it your (absurd) claim that Mike Griffin is blameless?</p>
<p><em>&#8230;if the intent of the Vision was to just heave billions at NASA, and let NASA figure out the implementation, why was the Aldridge Commission even constituted to report to the WH?</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that was the intent of the vision.  The intent of the vision was for NASA to figure out the implementation using guidance from the Aldridge Commission.  Which it did until Mike Griffin took over, at which point, the Aldridge Commission was completely ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-162062</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I could just as well ask why you persist in trying to protect the White House in all this.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m not trying to â€œprotect the White House.â€ &lt;strong&gt;As I already said in the post above.&lt;/strong&gt; (try reading for comprehension)&lt;/i&gt;

I could just as well have asked. But I didn&#039;t. For the reasons noted. Try reading for comprehension. 

&lt;i&gt;Once Griffin was appointed, the administration basically went on auto-pilot when it came to space policy, because they had much more urgent issues to deal with.&lt;/i&gt;

And, you&#039;re saying, that&#039;s why Griffin was at fault in all this. Because the administration &quot;went on auto-pilot&quot; because they had more urgent issues to deal with. Ahh, I see ...

One of those more urgent issues was, it seems, a new national space policy, that was issued by the White House in August 2006. That new national space policy explicitly covered all but the Vision (non-NASA civil and defense), deferring VSE related stuff to whatever NASA was doing. Autopilot indeed. They just turned their back on the Vision and didn&#039;t want to deal with it. That is essentially what happened. Oh, they were too busy developing a new national space policy. Doh!

In fact, if the intent of the Vision was to just heave billions at NASA, and let NASA figure out the implementation, why was the Aldridge Commission even constituted to report to the WH?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I could just as well ask why you persist in trying to protect the White House in all this.</i></p>
<p><i>Iâ€™m not trying to â€œprotect the White House.â€ <strong>As I already said in the post above.</strong> (try reading for comprehension)</i></p>
<p>I could just as well have asked. But I didn&#8217;t. For the reasons noted. Try reading for comprehension. </p>
<p><i>Once Griffin was appointed, the administration basically went on auto-pilot when it came to space policy, because they had much more urgent issues to deal with.</i></p>
<p>And, you&#8217;re saying, that&#8217;s why Griffin was at fault in all this. Because the administration &#8220;went on auto-pilot&#8221; because they had more urgent issues to deal with. Ahh, I see &#8230;</p>
<p>One of those more urgent issues was, it seems, a new national space policy, that was issued by the White House in August 2006. That new national space policy explicitly covered all but the Vision (non-NASA civil and defense), deferring VSE related stuff to whatever NASA was doing. Autopilot indeed. They just turned their back on the Vision and didn&#8217;t want to deal with it. That is essentially what happened. Oh, they were too busy developing a new national space policy. Doh!</p>
<p>In fact, if the intent of the Vision was to just heave billions at NASA, and let NASA figure out the implementation, why was the Aldridge Commission even constituted to report to the WH?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-162060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I could just as well ask why you persist in trying to protect the White House in all this.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™m not trying to â€œprotect the White House.â€ &lt;strong&gt;As I already said in the post above&lt;/strong. (try reading for comprehension)&lt;/i&gt;

I could just as well have asked. But I didn&#039;t. For the reasons noted. Try reading for comprehension. 

&lt;i&gt;Once Griffin was appointed, the administration basically went on auto-pilot when it came to space policy, because they had much more urgent issues to deal with.&lt;/i&gt;

And, you&#039;re saying, that&#039;s why Griffin was at fault in all this. Because the administration &quot;went on auto-pilot&quot; because they had more urgent issues to deal with. Ahh, I see ...

One of those more urgent issues was, it seems, a new national space policy, that was issued by the White House in August 2006. That new national space policy explicitly covered all but the Vision (non-NASA civil and defense), deferring VSE related stuff to whatever NASA was doing. Autopilot indeed. They just turned their back on the Vision and didn&#039;t want to deal with it. That is essentially what happened. Oh, they were too busy developing a new national space policy. Doh!

In fact, if the intent of the Vision was to just heave billions at NASA, and let NASA figure out the implementation, why was the Aldridge Commission even constituted to report to the WH?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I could just as well ask why you persist in trying to protect the White House in all this.</i></p>
<p><i>Iâ€™m not trying to â€œprotect the White House.â€ <strong>As I already said in the post above&lt;/strong. (try reading for comprehension)</strong></i></p>
<p>I could just as well have asked. But I didn&#8217;t. For the reasons noted. Try reading for comprehension. </p>
<p><i>Once Griffin was appointed, the administration basically went on auto-pilot when it came to space policy, because they had much more urgent issues to deal with.</i></p>
<p>And, you&#8217;re saying, that&#8217;s why Griffin was at fault in all this. Because the administration &#8220;went on auto-pilot&#8221; because they had more urgent issues to deal with. Ahh, I see &#8230;</p>
<p>One of those more urgent issues was, it seems, a new national space policy, that was issued by the White House in August 2006. That new national space policy explicitly covered all but the Vision (non-NASA civil and defense), deferring VSE related stuff to whatever NASA was doing. Autopilot indeed. They just turned their back on the Vision and didn&#8217;t want to deal with it. That is essentially what happened. Oh, they were too busy developing a new national space policy. Doh!</p>
<p>In fact, if the intent of the Vision was to just heave billions at NASA, and let NASA figure out the implementation, why was the Aldridge Commission even constituted to report to the WH?</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-161802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;NASA should never have dropped its plans to visit Mars so it can make a redundant publicity run for the moon.&lt;/em&gt;

This is the third blog where you&#039;ve pasted this same nonsense (mine, NASAWatch, and here).  NASA never had plans to visit Mars, and the lunar mission is national policy, not NASA policy, and it&#039;s not a &quot;publicity run.&quot;  This is simply stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>NASA should never have dropped its plans to visit Mars so it can make a redundant publicity run for the moon.</em></p>
<p>This is the third blog where you&#8217;ve pasted this same nonsense (mine, NASAWatch, and here).  NASA never had plans to visit Mars, and the lunar mission is national policy, not NASA policy, and it&#8217;s not a &#8220;publicity run.&#8221;  This is simply stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: bdiego</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-161691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bdiego]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Griffin is intent on wasting taxpayer dollars on a drawn out effort to re-reach the moon. NASA should never have dropped its plans to visit Mars so it can make a redundant publicity run for the moon.

Griffin has politicized NASA and dodges accountability as his inexplicable outbursts this year have shown. The bottom line is Griffin doesnâ€™t understand that he works for America, not the other way around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Griffin is intent on wasting taxpayer dollars on a drawn out effort to re-reach the moon. NASA should never have dropped its plans to visit Mars so it can make a redundant publicity run for the moon.</p>
<p>Griffin has politicized NASA and dodges accountability as his inexplicable outbursts this year have shown. The bottom line is Griffin doesnâ€™t understand that he works for America, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2008/12/24/does-mike-griffin-need-a-fan-club/#comment-161578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Save Mike petition is going to get a lot more signatures soon.  The controversy is now in the top Yahoo.com news stories with a link to the Save Mike petition.  One of the counter petitions is mentioned, but there&#039;s no link to it.

news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_re_us/nasa_chief]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Save Mike petition is going to get a lot more signatures soon.  The controversy is now in the top Yahoo.com news stories with a link to the Save Mike petition.  One of the counter petitions is mentioned, but there&#8217;s no link to it.</p>
<p>news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_re_us/nasa_chief</p>
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