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	<title>Comments on: The Senate is more stimulating</title>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/01/27/the-senate-is-more-stimulating/#comment-179063</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The actual Senate bill and report are now available at http://appropriations.senate.gov.

The bill is pretty vague on NASA (and some other agencies):

NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION

SCIENCE
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Scienceâ€™â€™, $500,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.

AERONAUTICS
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Aeronauticsâ€™â€™, $250,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.

EXPLORATION
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Explorationâ€™â€™, $500,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.

CROSS AGENCY SUPPORT
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Cross Agency Supportâ€™â€™, $250,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.

OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Office of Inspector Generalâ€™â€™, $2,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.

The report shows more of what they have in mind.  The Science funds are recommended for &quot;Earth science missions&quot;, Aeronautics for &quot;environmentally responsible aircraft&quot;, Exploration &quot;to shorten the gap&quot;, Cross Agency Support for hurricane repair, facility repair, and supercomputers, and Inspector General funding to audit the other funds.

I certainly would have come up with something different if my goal were a quick economic stimulus, a productive NASA, or both.  Still, it could be good or it could be bad - there aren&#039;t enough details.  Will the Exploration funds vanish in a giant black hole like ESAS?  Will the facility repairs be for facilities related to that giant black hole?  Will the Earth Science funds vanish in an NPOESS abyss?  Or, should these provisions make it into law, will NASA break the trends of the last few years and find more productive uses of the funds within the intent of the bill by choosing more manageable and/or commercially-oriented missions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual Senate bill and report are now available at <a href="http://appropriations.senate.gov" rel="nofollow">http://appropriations.senate.gov</a>.</p>
<p>The bill is pretty vague on NASA (and some other agencies):</p>
<p>NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION</p>
<p>SCIENCE<br />
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Scienceâ€™â€™, $500,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.</p>
<p>AERONAUTICS<br />
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Aeronauticsâ€™â€™, $250,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.</p>
<p>EXPLORATION<br />
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Explorationâ€™â€™, $500,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.</p>
<p>CROSS AGENCY SUPPORT<br />
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Cross Agency Supportâ€™â€™, $250,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.</p>
<p>OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL<br />
For an additional amount for â€˜â€˜Office of Inspector Generalâ€™â€™, $2,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2010.</p>
<p>The report shows more of what they have in mind.  The Science funds are recommended for &#8220;Earth science missions&#8221;, Aeronautics for &#8220;environmentally responsible aircraft&#8221;, Exploration &#8220;to shorten the gap&#8221;, Cross Agency Support for hurricane repair, facility repair, and supercomputers, and Inspector General funding to audit the other funds.</p>
<p>I certainly would have come up with something different if my goal were a quick economic stimulus, a productive NASA, or both.  Still, it could be good or it could be bad &#8211; there aren&#8217;t enough details.  Will the Exploration funds vanish in a giant black hole like ESAS?  Will the facility repairs be for facilities related to that giant black hole?  Will the Earth Science funds vanish in an NPOESS abyss?  Or, should these provisions make it into law, will NASA break the trends of the last few years and find more productive uses of the funds within the intent of the bill by choosing more manageable and/or commercially-oriented missions?</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/01/27/the-senate-is-more-stimulating/#comment-178623</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(By the way, the Florida Today link seems to be broken).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(By the way, the Florida Today link seems to be broken).</p>
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		<title>By: red</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;(Also: $500 million would only shorten the gap by a modest amountâ€”perhaps several monthsâ€”at best.)&quot;

That&#039;s true if it&#039;s wasted (if I may use the term) on Shuttle extension or Ares, both of which are too expensive for $500M to help much.  That amount would probably just slow by a bit the increase in the gap we see over time.

Also, it seems to me that a Shuttle extension wouldn&#039;t help as an economic stimulus in the short term.  The Shuttle is booked already; adding a mission would mainly just keep the Shuttle workers busy a bit longer after the Shuttle would otherwise be retired - about 2 years from now.  Ares funding would seem to be strange to do now when that program is in such controversy and due for an independent inspection.

Now ... if the $500M goes to something else, such as a COTS-D incentive for commercial crew transportation, it has a shot at shrinking the gap significantly.  (It would have had a better shot if started years ago like it should have been).

I wonder what types of funding is in the rest of that bill for NASA (the other $250M).  Is it useful?  Is it &quot;shovel-ready&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(Also: $500 million would only shorten the gap by a modest amountâ€”perhaps several monthsâ€”at best.)&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true if it&#8217;s wasted (if I may use the term) on Shuttle extension or Ares, both of which are too expensive for $500M to help much.  That amount would probably just slow by a bit the increase in the gap we see over time.</p>
<p>Also, it seems to me that a Shuttle extension wouldn&#8217;t help as an economic stimulus in the short term.  The Shuttle is booked already; adding a mission would mainly just keep the Shuttle workers busy a bit longer after the Shuttle would otherwise be retired &#8211; about 2 years from now.  Ares funding would seem to be strange to do now when that program is in such controversy and due for an independent inspection.</p>
<p>Now &#8230; if the $500M goes to something else, such as a COTS-D incentive for commercial crew transportation, it has a shot at shrinking the gap significantly.  (It would have had a better shot if started years ago like it should have been).</p>
<p>I wonder what types of funding is in the rest of that bill for NASA (the other $250M).  Is it useful?  Is it &#8220;shovel-ready&#8221;?</p>
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