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		<title>By: jack</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/05/19/yes-they-met/#comment-252683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, this isnâ€™t a â€œjob interviewâ€ for people at this level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, this isnâ€™t a â€œjob interviewâ€ for people at this level.</p>
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		<title>By: George Purcell</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/05/19/yes-they-met/#comment-241952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Purcell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2009/05/nelson-is-99-percent-confident-that-bolden-will-be-nasa-chief-.html

Well, well, well, Al.  Looks like Bolden went in there exactly as I predicted and demanded his own direct reports.

Again, this isn&#039;t a &quot;job interview&quot; for people at this level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2009/05/nelson-is-99-percent-confident-that-bolden-will-be-nasa-chief-.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2009/05/nelson-is-99-percent-confident-that-bolden-will-be-nasa-chief-.html</a></p>
<p>Well, well, well, Al.  Looks like Bolden went in there exactly as I predicted and demanded his own direct reports.</p>
<p>Again, this isn&#8217;t a &#8220;job interview&#8221; for people at this level.</p>
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		<title>By: watches</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[watches]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OSTP would do well to up the depth and breadth of its staff on space issues; but, to date, I see no evidence of that happening. Unfortunately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSTP would do well to up the depth and breadth of its staff on space issues; but, to date, I see no evidence of that happening. Unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: air</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good catch. But a FACA committee needs staff support and an account to pay the bills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch. But a FACA committee needs staff support and an account to pay the bills.</p>
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		<title>By: jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/05/19/yes-they-met/#comment-241728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cowing is reporting that the Bolden Obama meeting â€œdid not go well.â€ No elaboration, but I am frankly intriqued.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowing is reporting that the Bolden Obama meeting â€œdid not go well.â€ No elaboration, but I am frankly intriqued.</p>
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		<title>By: nike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This would seem to indicate that the sponsoring agency is NASA and not OSTP and that is very troubling indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would seem to indicate that the sponsoring agency is NASA and not OSTP and that is very troubling indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good catch. But a FACA committee needs staff support and an account to pay the bills. A FACA committee can be set up by statute, by the President, or by an agency. OSTP has handed that responsibility to NASA. See

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-11323.pdf   and
http://www.ostp.gov/galleries/press_release_files/NASA%20Review.pdf

The independence of that panel is part of their charter, and the panel is charged with &quot;working closely with NASA&quot;. I would gather that Norm Augustine has responsibility for ensuring that independence.

This isn&#039;t a review of the agency. It&#039;s a review of U.S. human space flight policy.

It is of some interest that the Aldridge Panel was set up by Presidential Directive. This panel is not. Though the Aldridge panel was charged with fleshing out a vision for exploration, while this panel is just charged with assessing options for a piece of that vision.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch. But a FACA committee needs staff support and an account to pay the bills. A FACA committee can be set up by statute, by the President, or by an agency. OSTP has handed that responsibility to NASA. See</p>
<p><a href="http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-11323.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-11323.pdf</a>   and<br />
<a href="http://www.ostp.gov/galleries/press_release_files/NASA%20Review.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ostp.gov/galleries/press_release_files/NASA%20Review.pdf</a></p>
<p>The independence of that panel is part of their charter, and the panel is charged with &#8220;working closely with NASA&#8221;. I would gather that Norm Augustine has responsibility for ensuring that independence.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a review of the agency. It&#8217;s a review of U.S. human space flight policy.</p>
<p>It is of some interest that the Aldridge Panel was set up by Presidential Directive. This panel is not. Though the Aldridge panel was charged with fleshing out a vision for exploration, while this panel is just charged with assessing options for a piece of that vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Hartnett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norm Hartnett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 16:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just to be clear, a FACA panel has members formally approved by the sponsoring agency (in this case OSTP),&quot;

According to the Notice of Establishment of a NASA Advisory Committee as published at http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=31271

&quot;Explanation of Need: The Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration has determined that the establishment of a Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans Committee is necessary and in the public interest in connection with duties imposed upon NASA by law. This determination follows consultation with the Committee Management Secretariat, General Services
Administration.

AGENCY: National Aeronautics and Space Administration.&quot;

This would seem to indicate that the sponsoring agency is NASA and not OSTP and that is very troubling indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just to be clear, a FACA panel has members formally approved by the sponsoring agency (in this case OSTP),&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the Notice of Establishment of a NASA Advisory Committee as published at <a href="http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=31271" rel="nofollow">http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=31271</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Explanation of Need: The Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration has determined that the establishment of a Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans Committee is necessary and in the public interest in connection with duties imposed upon NASA by law. This determination follows consultation with the Committee Management Secretariat, General Services<br />
Administration.</p>
<p>AGENCY: National Aeronautics and Space Administration.&#8221;</p>
<p>This would seem to indicate that the sponsoring agency is NASA and not OSTP and that is very troubling indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Huntsman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Huntsman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Just to be clear, a FACA panel has members formally approved by the sponsoring agency (in this case OSTP), but in all cases that I know of, those members are vetted by the Chair, and sometimes even nominated by the Chair.
It makes zero sense for an agency to impose members on a Chair who he or she doesnâ€™t want to work with. I never said that Augustine had â€œauthorityâ€ or was a â€œdeciderâ€.&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s kinda the message I took away: When the White House is truly in control of a panel&#039;s set up, they wait until they have all the panel members decided - and &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt; announce it publicly. Here, only the head and executive secretaries were announced. That tells me the WH is not focusing on controlling the rest of the panel for whatever their definition of &#039;balance&#039; would be, meaning Augustine is more in of control of the Panel than he might have been in the past. 

Would that be/is that a good thing? I&#039;m not comfortable, either way.  Augustine does not necessarily have a good past in looking at things holistically, nor does he have a reformist mind-bent.  (This is the guy who really kicked off the consolidation - meaning, de-competitivization - of the American aerospace industry).  I also disagree with his statements in the past that science was the most important thing in deciding what to do with space. 

However.... the Obama WH is not the best place to pick, either.  Our new OSTP head is as qualified as anyone for that extremely broad position; particularly when realizing in that the environment and climate change needs to a real focus of science and technology issues going forward. But on space issues, he doesn&#039;t seem to have the same nuanced understandings about NASA and its issues, including needed NASA internal reforms; about space competitiveness, space development, etc. that would be needed to oversee intelligent picks in 2009; and, to my knowledge, he has no advisors on staff who do. 

OSTP would do well to up the depth and breadth of its staff on space issues; but, to date, I see no evidence of that happening. Unfortunately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just to be clear, a FACA panel has members formally approved by the sponsoring agency (in this case OSTP), but in all cases that I know of, those members are vetted by the Chair, and sometimes even nominated by the Chair.<br />
It makes zero sense for an agency to impose members on a Chair who he or she doesnâ€™t want to work with. I never said that Augustine had â€œauthorityâ€ or was a â€œdeciderâ€.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s kinda the message I took away: When the White House is truly in control of a panel&#8217;s set up, they wait until they have all the panel members decided &#8211; and <i>then</i> announce it publicly. Here, only the head and executive secretaries were announced. That tells me the WH is not focusing on controlling the rest of the panel for whatever their definition of &#8216;balance&#8217; would be, meaning Augustine is more in of control of the Panel than he might have been in the past. </p>
<p>Would that be/is that a good thing? I&#8217;m not comfortable, either way.  Augustine does not necessarily have a good past in looking at things holistically, nor does he have a reformist mind-bent.  (This is the guy who really kicked off the consolidation &#8211; meaning, de-competitivization &#8211; of the American aerospace industry).  I also disagree with his statements in the past that science was the most important thing in deciding what to do with space. </p>
<p>However&#8230;. the Obama WH is not the best place to pick, either.  Our new OSTP head is as qualified as anyone for that extremely broad position; particularly when realizing in that the environment and climate change needs to a real focus of science and technology issues going forward. But on space issues, he doesn&#8217;t seem to have the same nuanced understandings about NASA and its issues, including needed NASA internal reforms; about space competitiveness, space development, etc. that would be needed to oversee intelligent picks in 2009; and, to my knowledge, he has no advisors on staff who do. </p>
<p>OSTP would do well to up the depth and breadth of its staff on space issues; but, to date, I see no evidence of that happening. Unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: former CA resident</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/05/19/yes-they-met/#comment-241294</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[former CA resident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good grief, folks, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good grief, folks, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar&#8230;</p>
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