Comments on: Lyles on Constellation, commercialization, and organization http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: Space Politics » Ares politics gets local http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-273440 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:18:08 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-273440 […] of the committee might prefer other options, we know that at least one member, Lester Lyles, supports the “program of record” and said he personally wanted to see the development of Ares 1 […]

]]> By: Top Dog http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271913 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:31:22 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271913 No, ‘others’ kill, which in the case of the US military, those ‘others’ are representing you. The mark of a critical thinking human is understanding that you are responsible for your actions, independent of the words that you hear.

But congratulations, you have just succeeded in indicting humanity.

If you want to continue breeding and educating humans to do whatever it is that you ask of them, demand of them or tell them – be my guest. That’s why we ended up with Ares. The reason we have a space program is to create human beings who understand the simple truth that words don’t kill, it is physics that does the actual job. If you don’t understand that physics, then you perhaps shouldn’t be given the job of attempting to control it.

Those responsible for the debacle of Ares do not understand physics.

]]> By: common sense http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271808 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:15:23 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271808 Words incite others to kill therefore words do kill.

]]> By: Top Dog http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271805 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:00:07 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271805 BTW, words “do” kill in many more ways than one…

Er, no, they don’t, not any more than an animal’s call in the wild does.

Animals do. Do. Some things work out better than others.

What Obama needs to do is cancel Ares I (the do do) and then seriously think about what he needs to do to prevent any subsequent heavy lift development at NASA to become another animal mess. That would involve reusability and incremental development of some EELV and shuttle derived derivatives in my HO. The DOD do do may have a completely different HO.

]]> By: common sense http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271802 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:46:56 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271802 “In the immortal word of John Lennon :

Give liquids a chance.”

Funny I was under the impression he enjoyed a lot more than liquids…

BTW, words “do” kill in many more ways than one…

]]> By: Top Dog http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271787 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:45:26 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271787 “Blowing things up and killing people…It’s what we do best!”

I guess you won’t mind if I don’t participate then. I prefer directing that energy into something more far useful – like work, progress and evolution.

And at the end of the day I feel good about myself, and I don’t have to make up lots of idiotic excuses for inexcusable behaviors. Words don’t kill, and the more the merrier. The sifting and winnowing will sort out the good phrases. Unfortunately, thus far all your words have ended up on my cutting room floor, Nelson. But do keep trying.

In the immortal word of John Lennon :

Give liquids a chance.

]]> By: Nelsoln Bridwell http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271727 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:57:24 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271727 Top Dog, I want you to know that we all genuinely look forward to the day when we no longer need experts at blowing things up and killing people for oil, religion, popularity polls, ideology, intimidation, or to sell newsprint. A lot of mankinds conflicts over the past 5,000 years were unarguably STUPID.

However, until you can find a way to make everyone a lot smarter, our motto will have to continue to be:

“Blowing things up and killing people…It’s what we do best!”

Cheers,
Nelson

]]> By: common sense http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271723 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:04:51 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271723 Could it be that Gen. Lyles cannot give his real opinion on the matter since he belongs to a committee that is supposed to provide options? At least until the report is out and the job is over… I think people you’re making too much of it.

Oh well…

]]> By: Top Dog http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271720 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:03:42 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271720 “his USAF experience in the Space Launch Systems office, working on the Short Range Attach Missle program, F16 Avionics, and command of the Space and Missle Systems Center.

Wow, blowing things up and killing people, for oil.

Heckava job, Nelson, just a heckava job.

]]> By: Robert Oler http://www.spacepolitics.com/2009/10/20/lyles-on-constellation-commercialization-and-organization/#comment-271711 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:29:59 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=2686#comment-271711 Marcel F. Williams military space programs while overly expensive…have a claim NASA’s do not…they make The Republic safer. I dont know how much for instance has been invested in GPS but every nickle has been paid back…and as for things like DSP and other programs…well we sleep great at night with them.

Robert G. Oler

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