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Space Politics » More talk (and denials) of a Plan B at NASA — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:21:49 +0000

[...] when asked by Wolf about the request he and other members made for a 30-day study of alternatives, Bolden said there was no examination of alternative concepts underway. “There is no [...]

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By: Abbysum1

Abbysum1 — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:36:53 +0000

FWIW – the ATK casting pits are not shut down – they are still in use for Ares test motor fabrication

By: googaw

googaw — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:43:27 +0000

Ferris: they will all be convinced as soon as the Constellation porkfest disperses and stops being a source of their fundraising.

By: Ferris Valyn

Ferris Valyn — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:46:13 +0000

danwithaplan – I’d like to see you convince people like Senator Shelby, or Ralph Hall about it being a bad plan. Or Giffords

By: danwithaplan

danwithaplan — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:21:27 +0000

We never even needed the Augustine ‘study’ to begin with. What a waste of money. It was obvious the Constellation/Constipation/Cancellation was doomed due to budget overruns, bad performance, poor technology selection.

By: common sense

common sense — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:29:52 +0000

“In a state where corruption abounds, laws must be very numerous.”

So long that you don’t have any more lawyers than there are laws maybe. Or they may just make their own laws just by the mere number of them all.

By: brobof

brobof — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:49:08 +0000

“It may be around some place.”
[ MrEarl wrote @ March 11th, 2010 at 3:05 pm ]
Oh I see that
Major Tom wrote @ March 11th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
and earlier at
Major Tom wrote @ March 11th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
has answered and pre-answered(!) for me. Thank you Major.

“An MPLM is already being refitted as a permanent module on the ISS there are still two others available for other uses.”
Yes and if you read NASASpaceflight you will understand why Rafaello and Leonardo won’t be flying. The TMNTs: Donatello and Michaelangelo are of course a different matter

Robert G. Oler: “Space Pork 6″ KUDOS Sir! Still makes me laugh. That meme needs to be promulgated.

And whilst in Rome: “In a state where corruption abounds, laws must be very numerous.” Publius Cornelius Tacitus

By: Major Tom

Major Tom — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:47:40 +0000

“I’ve never advocated restarting the ET production lines.”

I (at least) never said that you did.

“There was only one other poster who disputed the claims and all his sources were ‘buddies’ who work there.”

“My source for ATK is the son of a woman I’m dating who works for ATK and is interested in spaceflight so he trys to keep up with what’s going on with the SRBs.”

These sources are both hearsay. One isn’t better than the other.

“Nice work on the strawmen you set up Tom… As for the other things you mention like wiring harnesses and actuators can be pulled from the retired shuttle if new parts are not available.”

Used/damaged RCC panels, thermal blankets, and windows can’t be reused.

A retired orbiter won’t provide mission-specific hardware.

A retired orbiter won’t provide payloads.

This is not a strawman. If we want to play Shuttle extension manager, these are the issues we have to deal with. We can’t handwave them away.

“So really it still comes down to my original proposal”

Why do we need a 30-day study for something that Shannon’s team has been studying for months now?

What about Shannon’s statements on the 2-3 gap don’t you think are true?

“I would think that it would have been in an advanced state of production before finally being canceled. It may be around some place.”

The pressurized static test hull for the SPP is being used on Rassvet Mini-Research Module (or MRM-1), which is already scheduled to fly on STS-132.

FWIW…

By: Robert G. Oler

Robert G. Oler — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:36:33 +0000

MrEarl wrote @ March 11th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

That’s why a 30 day review of what’s available to launch and shuttle resources to launch them would be a reasonable course at this time…

for who?

I dont know that Administrator Bodlen nor anyone who is reporting to work at NASA HQ needs such a review. (they probably have all this information at their fingertips).

aside from that.

The purpose of this “review” by the Space Pork 6 is simply to go over plans which have already been made and to give people who dont have a plan (the save our jobs folks) something maybe to hang their hat on.

If this review was going to be useful then it should have occurred oh maybe five years ago…or at least four years ago when Constellation started having trouble.

As it stands now it strikes me as the Japanese high command having a review if Pearl Harbor was a good idea…oh sometime in 44.

Robert G. Oler