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		<title>By: Space Politics Â» Differing predictions for April 15 &#124; Commercial Space Travel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 20:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brobof</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brobof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And adding to Costal Ron&#039;s comment. There is a story, possibly apocryphal (meaning that I can&#039;t find the reference :) that Reagan&#039;s &#039;invitation&#039; to join the ISS was to stop Europe and Japan developing independant space capability. So that rather than a &quot;fair and full partnership&quot; the IPs were constrained by American politics and restrictive practices. &quot;You will launch on Shuttle.&quot; 
For the French, after losing Hermes, the X 38 (CRV) cancellation April 29, 2002 was the last straw and the appointment of Jean-Jacques Dordain as ESA Director General (July 2003) the political riposte.
I can&#039;t wait to see the response when China gets a module!
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/columbus.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And adding to Costal Ron&#8217;s comment. There is a story, possibly apocryphal (meaning that I can&#8217;t find the reference <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> that Reagan&#8217;s &#8216;invitation&#8217; to join the ISS was to stop Europe and Japan developing independant space capability. So that rather than a &#8220;fair and full partnership&#8221; the IPs were constrained by American politics and restrictive practices. &#8220;You will launch on Shuttle.&#8221;<br />
For the French, after losing Hermes, the X 38 (CRV) cancellation April 29, 2002 was the last straw and the appointment of Jean-Jacques Dordain as ESA Director General (July 2003) the political riposte.<br />
I can&#8217;t wait to see the response when China gets a module!<br />
<a href="http://www.russianspaceweb.com/columbus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.russianspaceweb.com/columbus.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcel, you&#039;re going to have to explain your acronyms - does NSS mean National Streamflow Statistics or Nicaragua Spanish Schools?  Google is confused.  I know it can&#039;t mean National Space Station, because the ISS is that.  Do you want to trash all the work and material we already have in space, and start over again?  Good luck getting that funded.

I can just see the congressional hearings now:

Chairman - So Mr. Williams, you want to crash the ISS into the ocean as soon as possible, is that right?

Mr. Williams - Yes Chairman

Chairman - And why is that?

Mr. Williams - Well, the we don&#039;t own the whole ISS.

Chairman - I see.  And then what do you propose to do after that?

Mr. Williams - Well, spend Billions of $$$ to build a new one that we don&#039;t have to share with anyone.

Chairman - Uh, huh....  NEXT SPEAKER!!

Marcel, if you look into the history of the ISS, it has been a U.S. driven project from the beginning.  Taking on international partners has been a way to spread the costs, and would probably never have been built if we had to fund it completely.  Certainly without Russian participation, any station we had would have foundered during the Columbia shuttle stand down, so from that standpoint I&#039;m glad we have others participating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcel, you&#8217;re going to have to explain your acronyms &#8211; does NSS mean National Streamflow Statistics or Nicaragua Spanish Schools?  Google is confused.  I know it can&#8217;t mean National Space Station, because the ISS is that.  Do you want to trash all the work and material we already have in space, and start over again?  Good luck getting that funded.</p>
<p>I can just see the congressional hearings now:</p>
<p>Chairman &#8211; So Mr. Williams, you want to crash the ISS into the ocean as soon as possible, is that right?</p>
<p>Mr. Williams &#8211; Yes Chairman</p>
<p>Chairman &#8211; And why is that?</p>
<p>Mr. Williams &#8211; Well, the we don&#8217;t own the whole ISS.</p>
<p>Chairman &#8211; I see.  And then what do you propose to do after that?</p>
<p>Mr. Williams &#8211; Well, spend Billions of $$$ to build a new one that we don&#8217;t have to share with anyone.</p>
<p>Chairman &#8211; Uh, huh&#8230;.  NEXT SPEAKER!!</p>
<p>Marcel, if you look into the history of the ISS, it has been a U.S. driven project from the beginning.  Taking on international partners has been a way to spread the costs, and would probably never have been built if we had to fund it completely.  Certainly without Russian participation, any station we had would have foundered during the Columbia shuttle stand down, so from that standpoint I&#8217;m glad we have others participating.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel F. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/04/06/differing-predictions-for-april-15/#comment-294624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcel F. Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ISS is an international space station. Combined, our international partners are wealthier than we are. Yet we pay most of the cost!

Instead of increasing US funding for the ISS, I&#039;d cut it in half in order to fund a NSS program so that we can utilize for beyond LEO missions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ISS is an international space station. Combined, our international partners are wealthier than we are. Yet we pay most of the cost!</p>
<p>Instead of increasing US funding for the ISS, I&#8217;d cut it in half in order to fund a NSS program so that we can utilize for beyond LEO missions.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel F. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/04/06/differing-predictions-for-april-15/#comment-294622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcel F. Williams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rand Simberg wrote @ April 8th, 2010 at 1:10 am

&quot;Sorry but spending hundreds of billions of dollars invading a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11 is extremely wasteful! But our investment in space has paid the US tax payer back many times over!

Both of these ungrammatical statements are nonsensical, but it would be far beyond the topic of this site to rebut them, particularly since you are impervious to logic or clue.&quot;

The US could have conquered the solar system with those funds giving us access to hundreds of quadrillions of dollars in natural resources in the New Frontier in just the asteroids alone. Spending $10 billion  a month in a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 was a huge waste of tax payer dollars! If you want to know one of the reasons why NASA was underfunded during the Bush administration-- there&#039;s one of the answers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand Simberg wrote @ April 8th, 2010 at 1:10 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Sorry but spending hundreds of billions of dollars invading a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11 is extremely wasteful! But our investment in space has paid the US tax payer back many times over!</p>
<p>Both of these ungrammatical statements are nonsensical, but it would be far beyond the topic of this site to rebut them, particularly since you are impervious to logic or clue.&#8221;</p>
<p>The US could have conquered the solar system with those funds giving us access to hundreds of quadrillions of dollars in natural resources in the New Frontier in just the asteroids alone. Spending $10 billion  a month in a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 was a huge waste of tax payer dollars! If you want to know one of the reasons why NASA was underfunded during the Bush administration&#8211; there&#8217;s one of the answers!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/04/06/differing-predictions-for-april-15/#comment-294611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those who think Obama is going to &quot;compromise&quot; or &quot;capitulate&quot; or just deluding themselves.  Outside of the space centers, there&#039;s no real political support for Constellation, and everyone in Congress knows they&#039;ve spent the last six years shutting down Shuttle since Bush cancelled it in 2004.

The space center Congresscritters may be making a lot of noise, but they&#039;re just pandering for votes.  They don&#039;t have enough support within Congress to force the resumption of the unsustainable status quo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who think Obama is going to &#8220;compromise&#8221; or &#8220;capitulate&#8221; or just deluding themselves.  Outside of the space centers, there&#8217;s no real political support for Constellation, and everyone in Congress knows they&#8217;ve spent the last six years shutting down Shuttle since Bush cancelled it in 2004.</p>
<p>The space center Congresscritters may be making a lot of noise, but they&#8217;re just pandering for votes.  They don&#8217;t have enough support within Congress to force the resumption of the unsustainable status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: googaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[googaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Not only is it a permanent foothold in space (and a destination),&lt;/i&gt;

Oh yes, under the POR it was going to last all the way to 2016.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not only is it a permanent foothold in space (and a destination),</i></p>
<p>Oh yes, under the POR it was going to last all the way to 2016.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/04/06/differing-predictions-for-april-15/#comment-294579</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marcel wrote &quot;The Obama program increases ISS funding from $2 billion a year to $3 billion a year, which I am absolutely against. That doesnâ€™t excite me at all. Thatâ€™s a nightmare! And completely throwing away the successful Space Shuttle architecture would be extremely foolish.

But if you donâ€™t want a manned beyond LEO program to establish a permanent human presence on the Moon and Mars then you donâ€™t need a heavy lift vehicle. In fact, you donâ€™t need a government manned space program at all.&quot;

For all it&#039;s flaws, the ISS is a grand achievement.  Not only is it a permanent foothold in space (and a destination), but it brings together many nations to learn many things in space.  Instead of dumping it in the ocean, we should be leveraging this huge investment by fully utilizing it, and I see the proposed NASA budget as doing just that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcel wrote &#8220;The Obama program increases ISS funding from $2 billion a year to $3 billion a year, which I am absolutely against. That doesnâ€™t excite me at all. Thatâ€™s a nightmare! And completely throwing away the successful Space Shuttle architecture would be extremely foolish.</p>
<p>But if you donâ€™t want a manned beyond LEO program to establish a permanent human presence on the Moon and Mars then you donâ€™t need a heavy lift vehicle. In fact, you donâ€™t need a government manned space program at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>For all it&#8217;s flaws, the ISS is a grand achievement.  Not only is it a permanent foothold in space (and a destination), but it brings together many nations to learn many things in space.  Instead of dumping it in the ocean, we should be leveraging this huge investment by fully utilizing it, and I see the proposed NASA budget as doing just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Waddington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trent Waddington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hehe.. Obama isn&#039;t going to announce some change in direction folks.  That would be backstabbing Bolden who only days ago said that he expects Obama to just present the budget request and explain why it is a good thing.

So, in other words, everyone who currently thinks the budget isn&#039;t a good thing is just going to be *very* disappointed come April 15.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe.. Obama isn&#8217;t going to announce some change in direction folks.  That would be backstabbing Bolden who only days ago said that he expects Obama to just present the budget request and explain why it is a good thing.</p>
<p>So, in other words, everyone who currently thinks the budget isn&#8217;t a good thing is just going to be *very* disappointed come April 15.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 05:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Sorry but spending hundreds of billions of dollars invading a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11 is extremely wasteful! But our investment in space has paid the US tax payer back many times over!&lt;/em&gt;

Both of these ungrammatical statements are nonsensical, but it would be far beyond the topic of this site to rebut them, particularly since you are impervious to logic or clue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sorry but spending hundreds of billions of dollars invading a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9-11 is extremely wasteful! But our investment in space has paid the US tax payer back many times over!</em></p>
<p>Both of these ungrammatical statements are nonsensical, but it would be far beyond the topic of this site to rebut them, particularly since you are impervious to logic or clue.</p>
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