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		<title>By: Brand Development Company Vancouver</title>
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		<title>By: criminal lawyer phoenix</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 16:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ googaw,

Apparently, yes.  

As far as I can tell, the Constellation fiasco has convinced those in power that NASA is incapable of actually designing and building a crewed spacecraft and its launch vehicle.  It is thus not being permitted to do so.  Instead, they will say what they want and select the best bid to fill the need.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ googaw,</p>
<p>Apparently, yes.  </p>
<p>As far as I can tell, the Constellation fiasco has convinced those in power that NASA is incapable of actually designing and building a crewed spacecraft and its launch vehicle.  It is thus not being permitted to do so.  Instead, they will say what they want and select the best bid to fill the need.</p>
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		<title>By: googaw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;a commercially designed and procured crew vehicle built to NASA specifications &lt;/i&gt;

NASA won&#039;t do the &quot;design&quot;, just the &quot;specifications.&quot;   This is the secret sauce that is supposed to magically transform the Exploration Directorate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a commercially designed and procured crew vehicle built to NASA specifications </i></p>
<p>NASA won&#8217;t do the &#8220;design&#8221;, just the &#8220;specifications.&#8221;   This is the secret sauce that is supposed to magically transform the Exploration Directorate?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/04/08/nasas-next-steps-telecon/#comment-294837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Major Tom,

&quot;&lt;i&gt;The purpose of the telecon was to make field center assignments available to the press and public. If the agency wanted to respond to congressional concerns, theyâ€™d do so with congressmen and/or their staff present, likely behind closed doors â€” not with reporters on a public telecon.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

According to NASA Watch, the Vice President has also had a teleconference with the leading Congressional voices who have publically voiced scepticism over this new direction.  I&#039;m no where near experienced (or knowledgable) enough about the world inside the Beltway to guess exactly what this might mean, especially given the imminence of the President&#039;s visit to KSC (which is now being billed as a &#039;Policy Statement&#039; rather than conference - indications that the final decision, whatever it is, has been made).  As far as I can tell, the VP calling around people like Nelson and Shelby could mean either:

a) A final attempt to strong-arm naysayers to be silent or at least not be troublesome during the budget approval cycle;

b) A &#039;any final comments&#039; go-around-the-table confirming that the deal is now done and ready for the President to announce on the 15th.

FWIW, an obvious possibility (and one that General Bolden has heavily hinted at) is a Common Crew Vehicle competition, aiming to produce a new NASA CV that will enter service NET 2014 (based on the current Soyuz &#039;paid up to&#039; date) and will be launchable on any extant LV.  This will be the &#039;flagship&#039; commercial program out of KSC - a commercially designed and procured crew vehicle built to NASA specifications but under a new &#039;hands off&#039; project oversight regime.  If my theory is correct, then the first order of business for KSC and JSC&#039;s new commercial spacecraft offices will be to develop the specifications and terms of reference so that the RFQs can go out to Boeing-MDD, Lock-Mart, etc., as soon as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Major Tom,</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>The purpose of the telecon was to make field center assignments available to the press and public. If the agency wanted to respond to congressional concerns, theyâ€™d do so with congressmen and/or their staff present, likely behind closed doors â€” not with reporters on a public telecon.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>According to NASA Watch, the Vice President has also had a teleconference with the leading Congressional voices who have publically voiced scepticism over this new direction.  I&#8217;m no where near experienced (or knowledgable) enough about the world inside the Beltway to guess exactly what this might mean, especially given the imminence of the President&#8217;s visit to KSC (which is now being billed as a &#8216;Policy Statement&#8217; rather than conference &#8211; indications that the final decision, whatever it is, has been made).  As far as I can tell, the VP calling around people like Nelson and Shelby could mean either:</p>
<p>a) A final attempt to strong-arm naysayers to be silent or at least not be troublesome during the budget approval cycle;</p>
<p>b) A &#8216;any final comments&#8217; go-around-the-table confirming that the deal is now done and ready for the President to announce on the 15th.</p>
<p>FWIW, an obvious possibility (and one that General Bolden has heavily hinted at) is a Common Crew Vehicle competition, aiming to produce a new NASA CV that will enter service NET 2014 (based on the current Soyuz &#8216;paid up to&#8217; date) and will be launchable on any extant LV.  This will be the &#8216;flagship&#8217; commercial program out of KSC &#8211; a commercially designed and procured crew vehicle built to NASA specifications but under a new &#8216;hands off&#8217; project oversight regime.  If my theory is correct, then the first order of business for KSC and JSC&#8217;s new commercial spacecraft offices will be to develop the specifications and terms of reference so that the RFQs can go out to Boeing-MDD, Lock-Mart, etc., as soon as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Trent Waddington</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trent Waddington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the interest of productive conversation, can everyone who can&#039;t spell &quot;Bolden&quot; please refrain from posting on this site ever again?

The NASA administration&#039;s job is to work out the details of the plan the President has given them.  That&#039;s what they&#039;re doing.  All talk of &quot;plan B&quot; and other variations is simply nonsense that is coming out the mouths of people in denial.  Should Congress decide to rewrite the President&#039;s plan that will be in law, and the NASA administration will rearrange their planning around that law, but *that hasn&#039;t happened yet* so they are forging ahead with their planning without second guessing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the interest of productive conversation, can everyone who can&#8217;t spell &#8220;Bolden&#8221; please refrain from posting on this site ever again?</p>
<p>The NASA administration&#8217;s job is to work out the details of the plan the President has given them.  That&#8217;s what they&#8217;re doing.  All talk of &#8220;plan B&#8221; and other variations is simply nonsense that is coming out the mouths of people in denial.  Should Congress decide to rewrite the President&#8217;s plan that will be in law, and the NASA administration will rearrange their planning around that law, but *that hasn&#8217;t happened yet* so they are forging ahead with their planning without second guessing.</p>
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		<title>By: TauCeti</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my &quot;fantasy land&quot; once elected, POTUS is suppose to make decisions that benefit the entire country, not just his &quot;friends&quot;.   In general past Presidents, from both parties, considered this great country as one Nation, not just states that will vote for his party and those that will not.  

But this regime, and that is what it is, has divided the country between Red &amp; Blue, between the achievers whom they will tax and the non-achievers whom they will support with welfare....

You can take the Community Organizer out of Chicago, but you can&#039;t take Chicago out of the  Community Organizer.

Regime Change in 2012!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my &#8220;fantasy land&#8221; once elected, POTUS is suppose to make decisions that benefit the entire country, not just his &#8220;friends&#8221;.   In general past Presidents, from both parties, considered this great country as one Nation, not just states that will vote for his party and those that will not.  </p>
<p>But this regime, and that is what it is, has divided the country between Red &amp; Blue, between the achievers whom they will tax and the non-achievers whom they will support with welfare&#8230;.</p>
<p>You can take the Community Organizer out of Chicago, but you can&#8217;t take Chicago out of the  Community Organizer.</p>
<p>Regime Change in 2012!</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the history of the Republic, which Presidential &quot;regime&quot; punished their friends and rewarded their enemies?

In the history of the Republic which Presidential &quot;regime&quot; didn&#039;t reward supporters? Did Bush reward big oil? Did haliburton get no bid contracts?

You must live in fantasy land if you believe Presidents don&#039;t reward supporters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the history of the Republic, which Presidential &#8220;regime&#8221; punished their friends and rewarded their enemies?</p>
<p>In the history of the Republic which Presidential &#8220;regime&#8221; didn&#8217;t reward supporters? Did Bush reward big oil? Did haliburton get no bid contracts?</p>
<p>You must live in fantasy land if you believe Presidents don&#8217;t reward supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: TauCeti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TauCeti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As with most Chicago politics, the Obama regime is rewarding its friends and punishing its enemies.  In this case, centers in Blue states win and those in Red states lose, with some bones thrown to the Red states to cover their tracks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with most Chicago politics, the Obama regime is rewarding its friends and punishing its enemies.  In this case, centers in Blue states win and those in Red states lose, with some bones thrown to the Red states to cover their tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NelsonBridwell wrote @ April 8th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

Bob:

â€œObamaâ€™s space policy will make it out of the Congress with little or no changes.â€

That may be your prediction, and we will hold you to it. ........ When Constellation lands a man on the Moon?

......................

Even if it were to continue Constellation wont land a person (&quot;man&quot; shows really backwards thinking.. women in my family fly combat jets) until oh 2030 or later.

It is my prediction that Obama will get most if not all of his space policy.  There will be some tampering around the edges that people like Nelson and KBH can go back and claim victory with, but thats it.  The essence of it; Constellation gone, Shuttle in museums, no shuttle derived heavy lift and commercial crew access with heavy R&amp;D will sail into the future.

Congress doesnt have to turn 180 to support them, the support is lining up on vector pretty good now.

The problem with you, Whittington and the crowd at Save our Space (and other places) is that like the Fox News crowd, you have listened to much to the rhetoric of people who have a pecuniary interest in making you and others think that they are supporting your position and to keep the believers tagged up...and that has convinced folks like you that they are winning. 

Being loud might work for the extremes at Townhall meetings but it doesnt do policy. 

Obama is winning, because of a large number of factors (including winning the health care bill and that his opposition is disjointed) but more importantly (grin) because all the major players are lining up behind him, because he has been careful to formulate a policy which does that. there is a reason Boeing and PW (and actually Lockmart) Have tossed in the lobbing towel.

Worse for your point of view, Obama has picked competent people (General Bolden) to execute it.

As for &quot;holding me to it&quot; go ahead, that is why I sign everything I write.  Go search the archieves here.  When Whittington, even KC were chiming up about how VSE was going to just take off and go, I predicted it would stall out just like it has.  Why?  I watch the big picture.

I am content to sit back, let the future unfold and then we can both compare who said what and when.

There is no plan b and there is no Congressional revolt.

enjoy

Robert G. Oler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NelsonBridwell wrote @ April 8th, 2010 at 5:28 pm</p>
<p>Bob:</p>
<p>â€œObamaâ€™s space policy will make it out of the Congress with little or no changes.â€</p>
<p>That may be your prediction, and we will hold you to it. &#8230;&#8230;.. When Constellation lands a man on the Moon?</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Even if it were to continue Constellation wont land a person (&#8220;man&#8221; shows really backwards thinking.. women in my family fly combat jets) until oh 2030 or later.</p>
<p>It is my prediction that Obama will get most if not all of his space policy.  There will be some tampering around the edges that people like Nelson and KBH can go back and claim victory with, but thats it.  The essence of it; Constellation gone, Shuttle in museums, no shuttle derived heavy lift and commercial crew access with heavy R&amp;D will sail into the future.</p>
<p>Congress doesnt have to turn 180 to support them, the support is lining up on vector pretty good now.</p>
<p>The problem with you, Whittington and the crowd at Save our Space (and other places) is that like the Fox News crowd, you have listened to much to the rhetoric of people who have a pecuniary interest in making you and others think that they are supporting your position and to keep the believers tagged up&#8230;and that has convinced folks like you that they are winning. </p>
<p>Being loud might work for the extremes at Townhall meetings but it doesnt do policy. </p>
<p>Obama is winning, because of a large number of factors (including winning the health care bill and that his opposition is disjointed) but more importantly (grin) because all the major players are lining up behind him, because he has been careful to formulate a policy which does that. there is a reason Boeing and PW (and actually Lockmart) Have tossed in the lobbing towel.</p>
<p>Worse for your point of view, Obama has picked competent people (General Bolden) to execute it.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;holding me to it&#8221; go ahead, that is why I sign everything I write.  Go search the archieves here.  When Whittington, even KC were chiming up about how VSE was going to just take off and go, I predicted it would stall out just like it has.  Why?  I watch the big picture.</p>
<p>I am content to sit back, let the future unfold and then we can both compare who said what and when.</p>
<p>There is no plan b and there is no Congressional revolt.</p>
<p>enjoy</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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