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		<title>By: Fred Cink</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/04/16/additional-reaction-to-the-presidents-speech/#comment-298167</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vladislaw, your response to &quot;we have no mission now&quot; claims that we now have 10 missions from Obama&#039;s speach.

#1 Extend ISS  
No Problem, good use of existing resources/investments no increase in costs, just maintain current funding.Not visionary but doesnt need to be. 

#2 Develope and BUY COMMERCIAL manned access to LEO
Again no problem, use existing resources/investments (Atlas/Delta) and maybe Falcon/Dragon. MIGHT reduce costs, shuttle was supposed to, too.

#5 Develope BEO deep space mission tech. Again, not only &quot;no problem&quot; 
     (with 1 and 2 it starts to be doable in 3-5 years) its just that funding 
     is left for a nebulous future in &quot;out year&quot; budgets. 

From there things get a little slippery... 

#3 Keep Orion-ultra-lite as a down only CRV. What a total waste in duplicating (very poorly) an already existing reliable asset (Soyuz) 
Even I, a right wing, gun toting, fox news and limbaugh addicted, rascist sexist biggoted teabagger can&#039;t believe he pulled this one out of his hat.

#4 Spend ANOTHER 3 BILLION on ANOTHER HLV STUDY!!! Ever hear of Shuttle C, NLS, Ares 5, Jupiter. The stacks of paper studies from the last 40 years are tall enough to CLIMB them to orbit. How the hell did nasa come up with the Saturn V that fast that good way back then?!?

#6, #7, #8, #9, are all so far in future years and future dollars with no inkling or funding of an inkling as to be meaningless.

#10 I just can&#039;t wait for anti gravity, transporters, matter/antimatter warp
  drive, orbital towers or Pixie Dust technology to be developed either but again see #s 6,7,8,and 9]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladislaw, your response to &#8220;we have no mission now&#8221; claims that we now have 10 missions from Obama&#8217;s speach.</p>
<p>#1 Extend ISS<br />
No Problem, good use of existing resources/investments no increase in costs, just maintain current funding.Not visionary but doesnt need to be. </p>
<p>#2 Develope and BUY COMMERCIAL manned access to LEO<br />
Again no problem, use existing resources/investments (Atlas/Delta) and maybe Falcon/Dragon. MIGHT reduce costs, shuttle was supposed to, too.</p>
<p>#5 Develope BEO deep space mission tech. Again, not only &#8220;no problem&#8221;<br />
     (with 1 and 2 it starts to be doable in 3-5 years) its just that funding<br />
     is left for a nebulous future in &#8220;out year&#8221; budgets. </p>
<p>From there things get a little slippery&#8230; </p>
<p>#3 Keep Orion-ultra-lite as a down only CRV. What a total waste in duplicating (very poorly) an already existing reliable asset (Soyuz)<br />
Even I, a right wing, gun toting, fox news and limbaugh addicted, rascist sexist biggoted teabagger can&#8217;t believe he pulled this one out of his hat.</p>
<p>#4 Spend ANOTHER 3 BILLION on ANOTHER HLV STUDY!!! Ever hear of Shuttle C, NLS, Ares 5, Jupiter. The stacks of paper studies from the last 40 years are tall enough to CLIMB them to orbit. How the hell did nasa come up with the Saturn V that fast that good way back then?!?</p>
<p>#6, #7, #8, #9, are all so far in future years and future dollars with no inkling or funding of an inkling as to be meaningless.</p>
<p>#10 I just can&#8217;t wait for anti gravity, transporters, matter/antimatter warp<br />
  drive, orbital towers or Pixie Dust technology to be developed either but again see #s 6,7,8,and 9</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wiser</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 04:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the speech was interesting...but still, why not just plain keep Orion as is, which is what Lockheed-Martin seems to prefer as the &quot;Block I&quot;, and have a Block II version optimized for deep space, which was the original idea for Orion? The Commercial sector still has to convince Congress that they can deliver on their promises, and I would bet that Congress is going to insist on a Government vehicle as a backup to Commercial not being able to deliver. Remember: the President proposes, and the Congress disposes. 

As for heavy lift, even the Augustine Commission came to the conclusion that an Ares V lite was the preferred heavy-lift option in the near term. Talk of on-orbit refueling is that-talk-at the present time. There&#039;s still many unknowns to solve before orbtial refueling can prove viable, such as propellant storage and transfer, replenishment (I presume the depots will be replenished), safety on orbit, and so forth. 

Destinations: while the Moon was left out, no doubt the first BEO mission or two will be lunar orbit, to test the spacecraft and systems, and give crews experience in BEO before tackling a target beyond the Earth-Moon system. And when it comes time to get ready for Mars, the Moon will be used as the proving ground for Mars (habitats, EVA suits, rovers-both human and robotic, on-site resource exploitation, etc.). A successor administration will probably say &quot;We&#039;re going back to the Moon&quot; at some point. But there&#039;s one question the &quot;Flexible Path&quot; advocates fail to answer: how do you get past the feeling by the Moon first folks that Flexible Path is the &quot;Look, but don&#039;t touch&quot; program, when to the public, exploration is an astronaut getting out of a lander, planting a flag, and bringing stuff back?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the speech was interesting&#8230;but still, why not just plain keep Orion as is, which is what Lockheed-Martin seems to prefer as the &#8220;Block I&#8221;, and have a Block II version optimized for deep space, which was the original idea for Orion? The Commercial sector still has to convince Congress that they can deliver on their promises, and I would bet that Congress is going to insist on a Government vehicle as a backup to Commercial not being able to deliver. Remember: the President proposes, and the Congress disposes. </p>
<p>As for heavy lift, even the Augustine Commission came to the conclusion that an Ares V lite was the preferred heavy-lift option in the near term. Talk of on-orbit refueling is that-talk-at the present time. There&#8217;s still many unknowns to solve before orbtial refueling can prove viable, such as propellant storage and transfer, replenishment (I presume the depots will be replenished), safety on orbit, and so forth. </p>
<p>Destinations: while the Moon was left out, no doubt the first BEO mission or two will be lunar orbit, to test the spacecraft and systems, and give crews experience in BEO before tackling a target beyond the Earth-Moon system. And when it comes time to get ready for Mars, the Moon will be used as the proving ground for Mars (habitats, EVA suits, rovers-both human and robotic, on-site resource exploitation, etc.). A successor administration will probably say &#8220;We&#8217;re going back to the Moon&#8221; at some point. But there&#8217;s one question the &#8220;Flexible Path&#8221; advocates fail to answer: how do you get past the feeling by the Moon first folks that Flexible Path is the &#8220;Look, but don&#8217;t touch&#8221; program, when to the public, exploration is an astronaut getting out of a lander, planting a flag, and bringing stuff back?</p>
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		<title>By: richardb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob Zubrin wrote an excellent op-ed on the deception inherent in Obama&#039;s plan:   http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/04/19/2010-04-19_obamas_failure_to_launch.html

Someone brought up the Tea Party and I think its a good question what a Tea Party Congress would do with Nasa in 2011.  If Constellation is terminated this year, then I think Nasa gets deeper spending cuts.  Should those contracts be terminated in 2010 and the job losses booked his year and next, a Tea Party Congress will have a free ride cutting billions from Nasa&#039;s top line.  A Tea Party Congress will want to show its voters they are serious about cutting tens of billions, perhaps hundreds of billions from the USG budget.  Nasa, along with a great many federal agencies will get haircuts.

If Constellation isn&#039;t killed this year, then of course it won&#039;t get any funding increases either and Nasa is still going to have to take big cuts.  

I take it as a given that if the GOP adopts the Tea Party message and activism, it wins a sweeping victory in November at all levels of government.  I see no message more powerful in 2010 than the Tea Party&#039;s, can anyone else find a bigger message?  A victory for their message is likely to have a serious impact on Nasa, with real spending cuts and real programs being discarded.  Constellation could still be among them in 2011 should it survive 2010.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Zubrin wrote an excellent op-ed on the deception inherent in Obama&#8217;s plan:   <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/04/19/2010-04-19_obamas_failure_to_launch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/04/19/2010-04-19_obamas_failure_to_launch.html</a></p>
<p>Someone brought up the Tea Party and I think its a good question what a Tea Party Congress would do with Nasa in 2011.  If Constellation is terminated this year, then I think Nasa gets deeper spending cuts.  Should those contracts be terminated in 2010 and the job losses booked his year and next, a Tea Party Congress will have a free ride cutting billions from Nasa&#8217;s top line.  A Tea Party Congress will want to show its voters they are serious about cutting tens of billions, perhaps hundreds of billions from the USG budget.  Nasa, along with a great many federal agencies will get haircuts.</p>
<p>If Constellation isn&#8217;t killed this year, then of course it won&#8217;t get any funding increases either and Nasa is still going to have to take big cuts.  </p>
<p>I take it as a given that if the GOP adopts the Tea Party message and activism, it wins a sweeping victory in November at all levels of government.  I see no message more powerful in 2010 than the Tea Party&#8217;s, can anyone else find a bigger message?  A victory for their message is likely to have a serious impact on Nasa, with real spending cuts and real programs being discarded.  Constellation could still be among them in 2011 should it survive 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;He is moving to scrap the HEAVY-LIFT ROCKET Aries 5â€”the first launch vehicle since the Saturn 5, which can and would be used for trans-lunar &amp; trans-planetary transportâ€”which IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDâ€”which is slated for design &amp; construction by NASA, as commissioned by the Bush administration;â€”and he wants it terminated, simply because he and Buzz Aldrin dislike the designated first destination.&lt;/em&gt;

We don&#039;t &quot;need&quot; a Saturn-V-class vehicle to get back to the moon, even if you capitalize all the letters of the word.  It wasn&#039;t terminated because we aren&#039;t going to the moon, it was terminated because it&#039;s horrifically expensive and unnecessary.

&lt;em&gt;In his speech, the President said that Constellation was â€œunderfunded &amp; unsustainableâ€ because of the high costs, but then, he goes ahead and says that heâ€™ll INCREASE NASAâ€™s budget by amounts of billions of dollars per year much higher than that Project ever wouldâ€™ve cost and required!!&lt;/em&gt;

Again, using all caps and multiple exclamation marks doesn&#039;t magically render nonsense true.  Ares was not sustainable within the current budget, or the increased one.  Go read the Augustine report.  And if you&#039;re going to whine about its cancellation, at least learn to spell it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>He is moving to scrap the HEAVY-LIFT ROCKET Aries 5â€”the first launch vehicle since the Saturn 5, which can and would be used for trans-lunar &amp; trans-planetary transportâ€”which IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDâ€”which is slated for design &amp; construction by NASA, as commissioned by the Bush administration;â€”and he wants it terminated, simply because he and Buzz Aldrin dislike the designated first destination.</em></p>
<p>We don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; a Saturn-V-class vehicle to get back to the moon, even if you capitalize all the letters of the word.  It wasn&#8217;t terminated because we aren&#8217;t going to the moon, it was terminated because it&#8217;s horrifically expensive and unnecessary.</p>
<p><em>In his speech, the President said that Constellation was â€œunderfunded &amp; unsustainableâ€ because of the high costs, but then, he goes ahead and says that heâ€™ll INCREASE NASAâ€™s budget by amounts of billions of dollars per year much higher than that Project ever wouldâ€™ve cost and required!!</em></p>
<p>Again, using all caps and multiple exclamation marks doesn&#8217;t magically render nonsense true.  Ares was not sustainable within the current budget, or the increased one.  Go read the Augustine report.  And if you&#8217;re going to whine about its cancellation, at least learn to spell it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Set It Straight:  Thank you for your positive comment on the 18th!  All this Obama talk about going to Asteroids &amp; Mars is just a ruse, a smokescreen. It makes it SEEM like we&#039;re going to make progress under his leadership, but trust me, an enormous let-down is in store for us!  Think about just one aspect to his re-iterated proposal to terminate Constellation: He is moving to scrap the HEAVY-LIFT ROCKET Aries 5---the first launch vehicle since the Saturn 5, which can and would be used for trans-lunar &amp; trans-planetary transport---which IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED---which is slated for design &amp; construction by NASA, as commissioned by the Bush administration;---and he wants it terminated, simply because he and Buzz Aldrin dislike the designated first destination. Then, he has the moronic gall to tell all those people gathered in that room, that he&#039;s going to see that NASA gets a WHOLE NEW heavy-lift rocket!  The sketches will start getting drawn sometime in 2015---when he may or may not still be in office. Plus the choice of design will be based on all that starship warp-drive propulsion stuff that Charles Bolden will be cooking up in the labs, over the next five years. Further: In his speech, the President said that Constellation was &quot;underfunded &amp; unsustainable&quot; because of the high costs, but then, he goes ahead and says that he&#039;ll INCREASE NASA&#039;s budget by amounts of billions of dollars per year much higher than that Project ever would&#039;ve cost and required!!  My God, is this President&#039;s brain connected right?!  If Constellation was underfunded, then what he should&#039;ve freaking done was JUST FUND IT!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Set It Straight:  Thank you for your positive comment on the 18th!  All this Obama talk about going to Asteroids &amp; Mars is just a ruse, a smokescreen. It makes it SEEM like we&#8217;re going to make progress under his leadership, but trust me, an enormous let-down is in store for us!  Think about just one aspect to his re-iterated proposal to terminate Constellation: He is moving to scrap the HEAVY-LIFT ROCKET Aries 5&#8212;the first launch vehicle since the Saturn 5, which can and would be used for trans-lunar &amp; trans-planetary transport&#8212;which IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED&#8212;which is slated for design &amp; construction by NASA, as commissioned by the Bush administration;&#8212;and he wants it terminated, simply because he and Buzz Aldrin dislike the designated first destination. Then, he has the moronic gall to tell all those people gathered in that room, that he&#8217;s going to see that NASA gets a WHOLE NEW heavy-lift rocket!  The sketches will start getting drawn sometime in 2015&#8212;when he may or may not still be in office. Plus the choice of design will be based on all that starship warp-drive propulsion stuff that Charles Bolden will be cooking up in the labs, over the next five years. Further: In his speech, the President said that Constellation was &#8220;underfunded &amp; unsustainable&#8221; because of the high costs, but then, he goes ahead and says that he&#8217;ll INCREASE NASA&#8217;s budget by amounts of billions of dollars per year much higher than that Project ever would&#8217;ve cost and required!!  My God, is this President&#8217;s brain connected right?!  If Constellation was underfunded, then what he should&#8217;ve freaking done was JUST FUND IT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Ah, well, I recognize people that donâ€™t seriously think about space policy and have only leapt into this discussion to bash Obama.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, there are people like that, and it&#039;s stupid, but it doesn&#039;t make them &quot;teabaggers.&quot;  The only teabaggers are, you know, people who actually &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;teabag&lt;/a&gt;, and it has nothing to do with politics.  And I will persist in calling people who mindlessly call citizens concerned about the growth in government &quot;teabaggers&quot; scumbaggers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ah, well, I recognize people that donâ€™t seriously think about space policy and have only leapt into this discussion to bash Obama.</em></p>
<p>Yes, there are people like that, and it&#8217;s stupid, but it doesn&#8217;t make them &#8220;teabaggers.&#8221;  The only teabaggers are, you know, people who actually <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teabagging" rel="nofollow">teabag</a>, and it has nothing to do with politics.  And I will persist in calling people who mindlessly call citizens concerned about the growth in government &#8220;teabaggers&#8221; scumbaggers.</p>
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		<title>By: eh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;&quot;Nowhere near as strange as to see moronic anonymous scumbaggers calling unspecified people â€œspace tebaggers.â€ Youâ€™d almost think they have nothing useful to say.&quot;&quot;&quot;

Ah, well, I recognize people that don&#039;t seriously think about space policy and have only leapt into this discussion to bash Obama.   I don&#039;t know you you are so I won&#039;t specificlaly insult you.   Classy guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;&#8221;Nowhere near as strange as to see moronic anonymous scumbaggers calling unspecified people â€œspace tebaggers.â€ Youâ€™d almost think they have nothing useful to say.&#8221;&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, well, I recognize people that don&#8217;t seriously think about space policy and have only leapt into this discussion to bash Obama.   I don&#8217;t know you you are so I won&#8217;t specificlaly insult you.   Classy guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah....and the Planetary Society are very much to blame for the Moon getting negative press. That group would just be elated if the Moon would magically vanish from existence!  They love to act as if it doesn&#039;t exist, as a destination.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah&#8230;.and the Planetary Society are very much to blame for the Moon getting negative press. That group would just be elated if the Moon would magically vanish from existence!  They love to act as if it doesn&#8217;t exist, as a destination.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, Charles Bolden---the man who&#039;s going to develop starship warp-drive propulsion during the next five years---is squarely one of the culprits, in the putting of Project Constellation on the hangman&#039;s noose &amp; scaffold. There has never been a NASA administrator who was SO high on illusion like this before!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Charles Bolden&#8212;the man who&#8217;s going to develop starship warp-drive propulsion during the next five years&#8212;is squarely one of the culprits, in the putting of Project Constellation on the hangman&#8217;s noose &amp; scaffold. There has never been a NASA administrator who was SO high on illusion like this before!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Trent Waddington &amp; Jack:  Look, maybe I sound a bit like an emotionally high-strung canary right now. Yeah, you&#039;ve really got me there! But, it&#039;s going to take some passionate commitment to carry on this campaign now, to reverse this horrible course that Mr. Obama has set us on! I think that there are writers &amp; commentators which subliminally set us up for this---every space writer who ever said that the Moon was &quot;boring and uninteresting&quot;. Carl Sagan, now deseased, never missed an opportunity to bash our sole natural satellite as a place unworthy to re-visit. Robert Zubrin---who ironically is speaking out against the President&#039;s Plan---repeatedly slew out put-downs upon any concepts of re-visiting the Moon. Check out the &quot;Avoiding the Sirens&quot; chapter of his &quot;Case For Mars&quot; book, plus his recent &quot;How to live on Mars&quot;. Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, who actually orbited the Moon on that flight, wrote a book many years ago, &quot;Mission to Mars&quot;, which condemned any further manned Lunar visits, in favor of the Direct-to-Mars message. Now you got Sally Ride, Mae Jemison, shuttle astronauts, who SHOULD know better, hopping on the &quot;Let&#039;s ignore the Moon&quot; bandwagon. Then who would ever forget that big traitor to manned deep spaceflight, Buzz Aldrin, who got the heaven-sent privilege of history, to actually get to walk on another world; who would now deny that honor to anyone else in the future, simply because he doesn&#039;t care about the Moon. He should be exiled to the ISS for six months after what he&#039;s done to NASA. All those members of the Augustine Commission, take a lot of the most recent blame, for the imbroglio that NASA is now in---the idiotic quagmire of now having to do an infinitely more complex asteroid visit mission, while the Moon is completely ignored. This whole thing is just monumentally tragic, how the anti-Moon hysteria is going to keep us chained to LEO for the next solid 15 to 20 years!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Trent Waddington &amp; Jack:  Look, maybe I sound a bit like an emotionally high-strung canary right now. Yeah, you&#8217;ve really got me there! But, it&#8217;s going to take some passionate commitment to carry on this campaign now, to reverse this horrible course that Mr. Obama has set us on! I think that there are writers &amp; commentators which subliminally set us up for this&#8212;every space writer who ever said that the Moon was &#8220;boring and uninteresting&#8221;. Carl Sagan, now deseased, never missed an opportunity to bash our sole natural satellite as a place unworthy to re-visit. Robert Zubrin&#8212;who ironically is speaking out against the President&#8217;s Plan&#8212;repeatedly slew out put-downs upon any concepts of re-visiting the Moon. Check out the &#8220;Avoiding the Sirens&#8221; chapter of his &#8220;Case For Mars&#8221; book, plus his recent &#8220;How to live on Mars&#8221;. Michael Collins, Apollo 11 astronaut, who actually orbited the Moon on that flight, wrote a book many years ago, &#8220;Mission to Mars&#8221;, which condemned any further manned Lunar visits, in favor of the Direct-to-Mars message. Now you got Sally Ride, Mae Jemison, shuttle astronauts, who SHOULD know better, hopping on the &#8220;Let&#8217;s ignore the Moon&#8221; bandwagon. Then who would ever forget that big traitor to manned deep spaceflight, Buzz Aldrin, who got the heaven-sent privilege of history, to actually get to walk on another world; who would now deny that honor to anyone else in the future, simply because he doesn&#8217;t care about the Moon. He should be exiled to the ISS for six months after what he&#8217;s done to NASA. All those members of the Augustine Commission, take a lot of the most recent blame, for the imbroglio that NASA is now in&#8212;the idiotic quagmire of now having to do an infinitely more complex asteroid visit mission, while the Moon is completely ignored. This whole thing is just monumentally tragic, how the anti-Moon hysteria is going to keep us chained to LEO for the next solid 15 to 20 years!</p>
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