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		<title>By: Stuff from the Senate &#171; The Space Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stuff from the Senate &#171; The Space Geek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 01:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] are a huge variety of opinions on the subject, of course, as well as responses to those opinions. I won&#8217;t bother to repeat [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] are a huge variety of opinions on the subject, of course, as well as responses to those opinions. I won&#8217;t bother to repeat [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Church</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/10/lyles-nasa-underfunded-and-out-of-balance/#comment-302504</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Church]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Oler. 
Man in space serves the opposite purpose of the B-2 and V-22. Here is a consistent stream of thought aremisasling; We are engineering organisms, which can do alot worse than loading a B-2 with 20 or 30 H-bombs. How many could those bombs kill? Millions. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fission firecrackers compared to tritium boosted fusion devices. 1 plane. But some educated person with a laundry list of angry causes with some religiously generated petrodollars could cook up our extinction in a modest lab any day now. It is true. You don&#039;t think so? What would you have bet those towers would come down that way the day before it happened? We have all the pieces to insure there are places where the human race will survive. It is all simple engineering- and most it was done a half a century ago. Even back to 1929. Bernal spheres. If you think my reasoning is ridiculous that just might be the answer to the Fermi Paradox; life never becomes intelligent enough to keep from destroying itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Oler.<br />
Man in space serves the opposite purpose of the B-2 and V-22. Here is a consistent stream of thought aremisasling; We are engineering organisms, which can do alot worse than loading a B-2 with 20 or 30 H-bombs. How many could those bombs kill? Millions. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fission firecrackers compared to tritium boosted fusion devices. 1 plane. But some educated person with a laundry list of angry causes with some religiously generated petrodollars could cook up our extinction in a modest lab any day now. It is true. You don&#8217;t think so? What would you have bet those towers would come down that way the day before it happened? We have all the pieces to insure there are places where the human race will survive. It is all simple engineering- and most it was done a half a century ago. Even back to 1929. Bernal spheres. If you think my reasoning is ridiculous that just might be the answer to the Fermi Paradox; life never becomes intelligent enough to keep from destroying itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Can worn tires cause a car to vibrate and make growling nose?</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/10/lyles-nasa-underfunded-and-out-of-balance/#comment-302409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can worn tires cause a car to vibrate and make growling nose?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 06:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/10/lyles-nasa-underfunded-and-out-of-balance/#comment-302406</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 06:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rand Simberg wrote @ May 12th, 2010 at 1:07 am 

dont worry there are left wingers as well....its just that the right wing right now is so goofy.  

anyway back to space  Robert G. Oler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand Simberg wrote @ May 12th, 2010 at 1:07 am </p>
<p>dont worry there are left wingers as well&#8230;.its just that the right wing right now is so goofy.  </p>
<p>anyway back to space  Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/10/lyles-nasa-underfunded-and-out-of-balance/#comment-302396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 05:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;that charge is one of the top ten that take a person out of being considered seriously as a space policy person.&lt;/em&gt;

Another (and much more so) is mindlessly flinging about the phrase &quot;right wing.&quot;  It might be close to number one, in fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>that charge is one of the top ten that take a person out of being considered seriously as a space policy person.</em></p>
<p>Another (and much more so) is mindlessly flinging about the phrase &#8220;right wing.&#8221;  It might be close to number one, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/10/lyles-nasa-underfunded-and-out-of-balance/#comment-302375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 02:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And what does he say in support of Constellation? That actually exploring space was getting in the way of other, more important goals.&quot;

As if Constellation, as funded, was going to end up exploring space.

What General Lyles was talking about was balancing one key function of NASA with others. The oft valued enterprise sustainability isn&#039;t achieved with propping up one function by pulling the rug out from under another, as was happening over the last few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And what does he say in support of Constellation? That actually exploring space was getting in the way of other, more important goals.&#8221;</p>
<p>As if Constellation, as funded, was going to end up exploring space.</p>
<p>What General Lyles was talking about was balancing one key function of NASA with others. The oft valued enterprise sustainability isn&#8217;t achieved with propping up one function by pulling the rug out from under another, as was happening over the last few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 01:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nelson Bridwell wrote @ May 11th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
It is beginning to sound like Obama is worried that there might not be any extra funds left over for him to divert into the pockets of his supportersâ€¦

that charge is one of the top ten that take a person out of being considered seriously as a space policy person.

It is the stuff of simple partisanship

Robert G. Oler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nelson Bridwell wrote @ May 11th, 2010 at 8:02 pm<br />
It is beginning to sound like Obama is worried that there might not be any extra funds left over for him to divert into the pockets of his supportersâ€¦</p>
<p>that charge is one of the top ten that take a person out of being considered seriously as a space policy person.</p>
<p>It is the stuff of simple partisanship</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/10/lyles-nasa-underfunded-and-out-of-balance/#comment-302367</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 00:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FY 2011, and follow-up details, propose to extend ISS to 2020 or 2028, open LEO HSF to the private sector, develop advanced technologies for a host of more economical HSF capabilities, and develop precursor robotic missions BEO.

Critics say this proposal means the end of American HSF.

Translation:  This proposal means the expansion of American HSF beyond an expensive, slow, risky, single-point-failure government monopoly.   

General Lyles (ret.) may be urging a sensible balance in NASA, but we are probably past due for a balance between NASA and the private sector.  Not the cozy contractor balance of yore, but a balance springing from the wisdom of NASA&#039;s charter, or mission statement.

NASA should be making us proud by pushing the envelope of space technology, and making that technology available to private companies, including new-space start-ups.   

NASA should be an enabling resource for the private sector, not a roadblock.  NASA, your culture may have been defined by Apollo and shuttle (by both their triumphs and their tragedies), but it&#039;s time to leave that nest and fly into the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FY 2011, and follow-up details, propose to extend ISS to 2020 or 2028, open LEO HSF to the private sector, develop advanced technologies for a host of more economical HSF capabilities, and develop precursor robotic missions BEO.</p>
<p>Critics say this proposal means the end of American HSF.</p>
<p>Translation:  This proposal means the expansion of American HSF beyond an expensive, slow, risky, single-point-failure government monopoly.   </p>
<p>General Lyles (ret.) may be urging a sensible balance in NASA, but we are probably past due for a balance between NASA and the private sector.  Not the cozy contractor balance of yore, but a balance springing from the wisdom of NASA&#8217;s charter, or mission statement.</p>
<p>NASA should be making us proud by pushing the envelope of space technology, and making that technology available to private companies, including new-space start-ups.   </p>
<p>NASA should be an enabling resource for the private sector, not a roadblock.  NASA, your culture may have been defined by Apollo and shuttle (by both their triumphs and their tragedies), but it&#8217;s time to leave that nest and fly into the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Bridwell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nelson Bridwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 00:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry if I sound like a skeptic, but Lyles was part of the &quot;blue ribbon&quot; tiger team appointed to come up with catch phrases and excuses for killing off Constellation.

Only now, when it looks like Congress is not going to allow Constellation and NASA&#039;s manned space mission to suffer a premature death, does he speak up.

And what does he say in support of Constellation?  That actually exploring space was getting in the way of other, more important goals.  It is beginning to sound like Obama is worried that there might not be any extra funds left over for him to divert into the pockets of his supporters...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if I sound like a skeptic, but Lyles was part of the &#8220;blue ribbon&#8221; tiger team appointed to come up with catch phrases and excuses for killing off Constellation.</p>
<p>Only now, when it looks like Congress is not going to allow Constellation and NASA&#8217;s manned space mission to suffer a premature death, does he speak up.</p>
<p>And what does he say in support of Constellation?  That actually exploring space was getting in the way of other, more important goals.  It is beginning to sound like Obama is worried that there might not be any extra funds left over for him to divert into the pockets of his supporters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 21:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The United States needs to keep man in space. Any arguments?&quot;

I have no arguments for keeping man in space. He probably wouldn&#039;t like to be kept there anyway. 

&quot;You people would argue about toilet paper.&quot;

I guess if we weren&#039;t worried about men in space we wouldn&#039;t be arguing about toilet paper. 

I believe it is important that human beings exercise the ability to move beyond the Earth. Both physically and intellectually. This ability comes from development of transport architecture, and also from knowing what is beyond the Earth. But that&#039;s my opinion.

In the context of preserving the breadth of NASA activities, as per the lead post, it is sobering that the Space Act, which defines the task of NASA, says nothing about human space flight. NASA not only has no mandate to keep men in space, but no mandate to put them there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The United States needs to keep man in space. Any arguments?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no arguments for keeping man in space. He probably wouldn&#8217;t like to be kept there anyway. </p>
<p>&#8220;You people would argue about toilet paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess if we weren&#8217;t worried about men in space we wouldn&#8217;t be arguing about toilet paper. </p>
<p>I believe it is important that human beings exercise the ability to move beyond the Earth. Both physically and intellectually. This ability comes from development of transport architecture, and also from knowing what is beyond the Earth. But that&#8217;s my opinion.</p>
<p>In the context of preserving the breadth of NASA activities, as per the lead post, it is sobering that the Space Act, which defines the task of NASA, says nothing about human space flight. NASA not only has no mandate to keep men in space, but no mandate to put them there.</p>
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