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		<title>By: Gary Church</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/26/augustine-in-huntsville-cagw-cheers-constellations-demise/#comment-306479</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Church]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 05:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thanks for the history refresher. I hadnâ€™t meant any offense.&quot;

None taken at all....you are one of the few who post here who has not insulted, mocked, or called me a liar. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thanks for the history refresher. I hadnâ€™t meant any offense.&#8221;</p>
<p>None taken at all&#8230;.you are one of the few who post here who has not insulted, mocked, or called me a liar. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/26/augustine-in-huntsville-cagw-cheers-constellations-demise/#comment-305977</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Republican leadership wouldn&#039;t be &quot;calling for the heads of the current junta&quot;.  They&#039;d be thanking them for taking the bullet.

FWIW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican leadership wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;calling for the heads of the current junta&#8221;.  They&#8217;d be thanking them for taking the bullet.</p>
<p>FWIW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&#039;A GOP congress will be calling for the heads of the current junta.&#039;

Political buzzwords aside, it aintâ€™ gonna happen.&quot;

If it does happen, it actually reduces the chances for reviving Constellation or extending Shuttle.  Getting the deficit under control is one of the handful of major issues upon which Republicans are running.  If the Republicans gain control of the House (or Congress) based on promises of deficit reduction, the last thing their leadership is going to want to do is provide a $3-5 billion per year increase to a low priority like the NASA budget, especially for a Constellation program that has been roundly criticized for enormous cost and schedule growth by the GAO, CBO, a blue-ribbon White House panel, and now the CAGW.  They&#039;d be massacred by the White House and in the press.  The same largely holds true for a few billion per year increase to extend Shuttle operations.

FWIW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216;A GOP congress will be calling for the heads of the current junta.&#8217;</p>
<p>Political buzzwords aside, it aintâ€™ gonna happen.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it does happen, it actually reduces the chances for reviving Constellation or extending Shuttle.  Getting the deficit under control is one of the handful of major issues upon which Republicans are running.  If the Republicans gain control of the House (or Congress) based on promises of deficit reduction, the last thing their leadership is going to want to do is provide a $3-5 billion per year increase to a low priority like the NASA budget, especially for a Constellation program that has been roundly criticized for enormous cost and schedule growth by the GAO, CBO, a blue-ribbon White House panel, and now the CAGW.  They&#8217;d be massacred by the White House and in the press.  The same largely holds true for a few billion per year increase to extend Shuttle operations.</p>
<p>FWIW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: aremisasling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aremisasling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 18:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Not fair to use the term torpedoed and spruce goose in the same paragraph like that.&quot;

I hadn&#039;t even noticed the connection in my post.  Thanks for the history refresher.  I hadn&#039;t meant any offense.

&quot;nicely done&quot;

Thanks.  I really appreciate that.

â€œA GOP congress will be calling for the heads of the current junta.â€

Political buzzwords aside, it aint&#039; gonna happen.  The GOP certainly isn&#039;t positioned to gain the house and the senate is an unlikely win.  They will gain ground, for sure, but even the conservative talking class isn&#039;t hanging too much hope on completely taking it back.  Furthermore, the recent special elections and primaries have taken a lot of wind out of the sails of the &#039;GOP landslide&#039; theory, if not outright refuted it.  The GOP will gian seats, I&#039;m not delusional, but I think they lost enough ground in &#039;06 and &#039;08 that the Dems will at least be narrowly in the majority until 2014.

What&#039;s got me interested is the run to the wings in the primaries.  It&#039;s looking like an ideological battle come November.  And I think the victor will actually be the party that stays closer to center field.  Party loyalists love a purist candidate, but moderates and independants don&#039;t have much of a taste for them.  If you don&#039;t believe me, look to see how many national level politicians have been members of a third party.  Even the independants are essentially refugees from their caucusing party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not fair to use the term torpedoed and spruce goose in the same paragraph like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t even noticed the connection in my post.  Thanks for the history refresher.  I hadn&#8217;t meant any offense.</p>
<p>&#8220;nicely done&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks.  I really appreciate that.</p>
<p>â€œA GOP congress will be calling for the heads of the current junta.â€</p>
<p>Political buzzwords aside, it aint&#8217; gonna happen.  The GOP certainly isn&#8217;t positioned to gain the house and the senate is an unlikely win.  They will gain ground, for sure, but even the conservative talking class isn&#8217;t hanging too much hope on completely taking it back.  Furthermore, the recent special elections and primaries have taken a lot of wind out of the sails of the &#8216;GOP landslide&#8217; theory, if not outright refuted it.  The GOP will gian seats, I&#8217;m not delusional, but I think they lost enough ground in &#8217;06 and &#8217;08 that the Dems will at least be narrowly in the majority until 2014.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s got me interested is the run to the wings in the primaries.  It&#8217;s looking like an ideological battle come November.  And I think the victor will actually be the party that stays closer to center field.  Party loyalists love a purist candidate, but moderates and independants don&#8217;t have much of a taste for them.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, look to see how many national level politicians have been members of a third party.  Even the independants are essentially refugees from their caucusing party.</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 15:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm. Interesting. Don&#039;t you usually start with RFIs before issuing RFPs? 

I had predicted the demise of the CxP management, you know those who thought Congress would protect them... Next: most likely Coats and eventually Shannon. But Shannon at least has Shuttle to terminate. Coats will go back to LMT and lobby for cash on the new Orion-extra-lite vehicle...

It really is a good idea people to publicly fight your boss. Not sure what management rules you need to learn but yeah go on just go on at least some have nothing to lose. There will be ice melting monitoring to do soon with the new budget. 

Anywho...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Interesting. Don&#8217;t you usually start with RFIs before issuing RFPs? </p>
<p>I had predicted the demise of the CxP management, you know those who thought Congress would protect them&#8230; Next: most likely Coats and eventually Shannon. But Shannon at least has Shuttle to terminate. Coats will go back to LMT and lobby for cash on the new Orion-extra-lite vehicle&#8230;</p>
<p>It really is a good idea people to publicly fight your boss. Not sure what management rules you need to learn but yeah go on just go on at least some have nothing to lose. There will be ice melting monitoring to do soon with the new budget. </p>
<p>Anywho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 14:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;With a weak economy and further economic damage to the Gulf region from the oil spill, thereâ€™s no way theyâ€™re going to cancel Constellation in an election year with so many jobs in that area already lost.&quot;

How many Constellation jobs are on the Louisiana/Alabama coastline?

FWIW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With a weak economy and further economic damage to the Gulf region from the oil spill, thereâ€™s no way theyâ€™re going to cancel Constellation in an election year with so many jobs in that area already lost.&#8221;</p>
<p>How many Constellation jobs are on the Louisiana/Alabama coastline?</p>
<p>FWIW&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 11:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a weak economy and further economic damage to the Gulf region from the oil spill, there&#039;s no way they&#039;re going to cancel Constellation in an election year with so many jobs in that area already lost. Better to keep&#039;em working and paying taxes than idle and on the dole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a weak economy and further economic damage to the Gulf region from the oil spill, there&#8217;s no way they&#8217;re going to cancel Constellation in an election year with so many jobs in that area already lost. Better to keep&#8217;em working and paying taxes than idle and on the dole.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Church</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/05/26/augustine-in-huntsville-cagw-cheers-constellations-demise/#comment-305745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Church]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 05:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The V-22 is my favorite; hard to find anything that holds a candle to that monstrosity. I kind of liked the Ares 1 configuration except that not enough of it was reusable or usable as a wet workshop. But if it is gone, it is gone. Hopefully the money was not a complete waste.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The V-22 is my favorite; hard to find anything that holds a candle to that monstrosity. I kind of liked the Ares 1 configuration except that not enough of it was reusable or usable as a wet workshop. But if it is gone, it is gone. Hopefully the money was not a complete waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhyolite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhyolite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 05:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am glad to see CAGW pick up on this.  

Spending taxpayer funds to build a new medium lift launch vehicle, Ares I, from scratch when two medium lift launch vehicles are already in service and a third is in development is a clear example of government waste.

Spending 10 times as much as was spent developing similarly capable medium lift launch vehicles pushes Ares I into the category of the $600 hammer.

Ares I deserves a Golden Fleece Award.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to see CAGW pick up on this.  </p>
<p>Spending taxpayer funds to build a new medium lift launch vehicle, Ares I, from scratch when two medium lift launch vehicles are already in service and a third is in development is a clear example of government waste.</p>
<p>Spending 10 times as much as was spent developing similarly capable medium lift launch vehicles pushes Ares I into the category of the $600 hammer.</p>
<p>Ares I deserves a Golden Fleece Award.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 04:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As for Minor Tomâ€™s lengthy post.&quot;

Yeah, jabs about other folks&#039; screennames are so effective when they come from a poster whose screenname is the title of a mockumentary about lame folk music.

&quot;If NASA paper pushing impresses him, he will love this regime.&quot;

That &quot;paper pushing&quot; is being performed by the same leadership (Cooke, Guidi, etc.) that ran (and in some cases still run) Constellation.

Think before you post, genius.

Ugh...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for Minor Tomâ€™s lengthy post.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, jabs about other folks&#8217; screennames are so effective when they come from a poster whose screenname is the title of a mockumentary about lame folk music.</p>
<p>&#8220;If NASA paper pushing impresses him, he will love this regime.&#8221;</p>
<p>That &#8220;paper pushing&#8221; is being performed by the same leadership (Cooke, Guidi, etc.) that ran (and in some cases still run) Constellation.</p>
<p>Think before you post, genius.</p>
<p>Ugh&#8230;</p>
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