Comments on: Constellation program manager reassignment raises a ruckus on the Hill

By: Space Politics » NASA IG: Hanley reassignment proper

Space Politics » NASA IG: Hanley reassignment proper — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:34:13 +0000

[…] late May NASA reassigned Constellation program manager Jeff Hanley, a decision most people first heard about during a House Science and Technology Committee hearing featuring administrator Charles Bolden. That decision triggered a strong reaction among some […]

By: Smokey

Smokey — Fri, 28 May 2010 23:35:37 +0000

The US manned Space program is moribund. The next person to walk on the moon will be Chinese, or possibly Japanese. And the first person to walk on Mars will be Chinese, Japanese or possibly Indian.
The Shuttle was the major hardware in assembling the Space Station. But with the shuttle program ending US scientists will have to get there on an old Russian bus not much bigger than a Volkswagen bug.
How many top notch American scientists are going to be looking for jobs soon? I suppose they could get a job with with a car company or one of the big banks. They’re getting all the money now while remaining NASA sycophants try to convince us everything is just fine.
Good work Obama.

By: Chris Castro

Chris Castro — Fri, 28 May 2010 20:32:03 +0000

Down with Flexible Path!! May it be defeated on Capital Hill!! May wiser statesmen see through the folly & idiocy of NASA doing nothing but Low Earth Orbit for the next 15 to 20 years!! Generation X was born and lived out its life to middle age, and you mean to tell me, that no one has left LEO since the beginning 70’s??!! Do you all remember, from history books, mind you, just how petite computing power was at that time?! This was WAY before PC’s, Apple Computer, Microsoft. And between 1968 and 1972, NASA was able to send 24 astronauts Moonward. Now, in 2010, all we can do is LEO space station stays?! THAT is all we are capable of, after four solid decades?!

By: Chris Castro

Chris Castro — Fri, 28 May 2010 20:17:53 +0000

@ Almighty wind…..You’re totally right!! Charles Bolden IS THE WORST ADMINISTRATOR IN NASA HISTORY!!!

By: Francis Louis Charbonneau Jr

Francis Louis Charbonneau Jr — Fri, 28 May 2010 19:50:55 +0000

The reassignment of Hanley is the result of several actions of NASA each of which had a primary impetus and cause. First, Hanley was an outspoken critic of the Administration’s desire to cancel the entire program. This obviously did not sit well with the Administration and with its NASA head, Bolden. This was probably discussed at the highest levels and the decision was made to “get him out of there and shut his mouth”. Secondly, the Administration has been on a propaganda ship that is telling the country with “wonderful vision” about what our Space Program should be and what it is not right now. Remember, these are career politicians who have not studied engineering, physicis, or higher levels of Mathematics and Engineering. These are politicians such as Bolden, though a career officer which itself deserves its own praise, but politicians nonetheless who think they know what’s best for NASA. I doubt that the Administration has visited Lockheed Martin, Boeing, G.E. Aviation to see what the thousands of engineers, men and women, who have Masters Degrees and Ph.D.s in Aerospace Engineering, Physics, Mathematics, Computer Science have exactly worked. The test flight of Ares I in October was a success. Now as Bolden said a month ago “it was on course to oblivion and could not possibly work”. A study was done to back up the President’s eventual decision to cancel Constellation. I have read this report several times and not once do they quantifyingly or scientifically or empirically show that the Constellation program was doomed for failure. They never had one engineer whose doctorate from MIT or The University of Michigan where the research on the heat shields is occurring for Orion testify. What the Administration is stating over and over again is that the program would not work. Therefore, if it would not work, and now to impugn and insinuate that these thousands of engineers were simply wasting their time and playing computer games all day long and not really developing the Constellation equipment is nothing less than preposterous, insulting, absurd. This propaganda is sickening and nauseating. The engineers from AL, FL, GA, TX, AZ, CA, UT and tier ones and tier twos and tier threes to Constellation even in such devastated states as Michigan have engineers that believe and see success with Constellation. How could it be that they are all wrong. The Administration is going to ram its propaganda down everyone’s throats whether they like it or not. Finally, the fact that the Administration did NOT invite one NASA employee to the staged speech of hypocrisy at Kennedy Space Center in Florida – yes, the very 10,000 employees who will lose their jobs as soon as the last shuttle flies – yes, not one of those unfortunates were invited to listen to a speech that promised another 2,500 jobs from new targets for NASA. The speech was seen by many. It was insulting, it was perfidious, and it was a lie. I laud Kay Hutchinson and the rest of the Congress who will fight to save Constellation and prevent the lies and cheap propaganda about Hanley from obfuscating the truth.

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Fri, 28 May 2010 17:07:37 +0000

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By: Major Tom

Major Tom — Fri, 28 May 2010 16:13:51 +0000

“These are Boldenâ€™s own words. â€œIt was not an action that I took or directed.â€ The meaning cannot be more clear. Someone else, unknown at this time (though there are suspects), directed Hanleyâ€™s ouster.”

Sigh… for the umpteenth time, read before you post and read for comprehension.

This is Bolden’s full quote from Mr. Foust’s original post above:

“‘It was not an action that I took or directed. It would be an action that would be taken by the Exploration [Systems] Mission Directorate head, Doug Cooke, and Johnson Space Center director Mike Coats. I have been in consultation with them about that, and my understanding was that they were going to get together with him this morning.’â€

The “someone else” who reassigned Hanley is not “unknown at this time”. If you had bothered to actually read and comprehend the quote provided by Mr. Foust directly above, it’s clear that the reassignment was made by Doug Cooke, Associate Administrator for Exploration Systems, and Mike Coats, Johnson Space Center Director — not someone “unknown at this time”.

Again, what is your major malfunction when it comes to basic reading comprehension? Are you in grade school? Do you have a learning deficit? Is English not your first language?

Lawdy…

“I can understand why you want to keep your identity a secret. I would if I had the tendency that you do post foolish messages”

I recommend you do the same. I wouldn’t want anyone to know my name online if my posts exhibited a level of reading comprehension that’s worse than a fourth grader’s.

Cripes…

“Actually I had in mind what they used to do in Soviet Russia.”

Property seizure, gulags, and murder.

What a classy comment…

By: Coastal Ron

Coastal Ron — Fri, 28 May 2010 16:02:44 +0000

Mark R. Whittington wrote @ May 28th, 2010 at 1:04 am

“â€œMajor Tomâ€, pay attention and read carefully. These are Boldenâ€™s own words. â€œIt was not an action that I took or directed.â€ The meaning cannot be more clear.”

Yes, and the meaning is that Hanley did not work directly for Bolden, and that Hanley’s boss decided on their own to reshuffle their employees. End of drama.

As a manager, I didn’t consult my boss when I reassigned my employees, although I would keep them informed.

By: Mark R. Whittington

Mark R. Whittington — Fri, 28 May 2010 05:17:31 +0000

“â€œPurgingâ€ oh that word is so rocket science (grin) â€¦but what is happening is getting rid of 1) incompetence (there is more firings to come I predict) and 2) telling people that the way one disents is important.”

Actually I had in mind what they used to do in Soviet Russia.

By: Mark R. Whittington

Mark R. Whittington — Fri, 28 May 2010 05:04:21 +0000

“Major Tom”, pay attention and read carefully. These are Bolden’s own words. “It was not an action that I took or directed.” The meaning cannot be more clear. Someone else, unknown at this time (though there are suspects), directed Hanley’s ouster.That is why United States Senators are demanding an investigation.

I can understand why you want to keep your identity a secret. I would if I had the tendency that you do post foolish messages,