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		<title>By: Space Politics &#187; Briefs: export control reform continues, PETA declares victory</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-335110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Politics &#187; Briefs: export control reform continues, PETA declares victory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] protests of the work, including demonstrations outside NASA headquarters. In May, a young woman interrupted NASA administrator Charles Bolden&#8217;s speech at the International Space Development ... in Chicago to protest the experiments; PETA said the unidentified woman was a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] protests of the work, including demonstrations outside NASA headquarters. In May, a young woman interrupted NASA administrator Charles Bolden&#8217;s speech at the International Space Development &#8230; in Chicago to protest the experiments; PETA said the unidentified woman was a [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Martinez</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-311003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley Martinez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 03:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always support the cause of PETA.`;*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always support the cause of PETA.`;*</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Space #157: The 2010 ISDC Round-Up Edition - Out of the Cradle</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-309432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carnival of Space #157: The 2010 ISDC Round-Up Edition - Out of the Cradle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] More on PETA, Bolden, and ISDC - SpacePolitics.com [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] More on PETA, Bolden, and ISDC &#8211; SpacePolitics.com [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Space Investment Summit 8/ISDC 2010 Debrief - Out of the Cradle</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-309377</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Space Investment Summit 8/ISDC 2010 Debrief - Out of the Cradle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] but rather Monkey Girl. I really don&#8217;t have much to say in that regard, as I think too many electrons have been spilled on the topic already. I will just say that NSS invests a lot of time, money and [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] but rather Monkey Girl. I really don&#8217;t have much to say in that regard, as I think too many electrons have been spilled on the topic already. I will just say that NSS invests a lot of time, money and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Oberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-308307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Oberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember the story of Dan Goldin being scolded at dinner in his home by his PETA-inclined daughter after he&#039;d agreed to participate in a Russian space experiment using monkeys? That&#039;s a conversation I&#039;d have loved to overhear!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the story of Dan Goldin being scolded at dinner in his home by his PETA-inclined daughter after he&#8217;d agreed to participate in a Russian space experiment using monkeys? That&#8217;s a conversation I&#8217;d have loved to overhear!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil H.</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-308285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; I would like to find a source for this informationâ€¦. seriously! I was under the impression that experiments with monkeys ended with the cancellation of the Mercury program, but I am certainly willing to be surprised and be corrected on this point.

Sort of. If I understand correctly, from my reading of things so far, the half-dozen rhesus monkeys exposed to radiation back in the 1960s were studied as late as the 1990s in order to understand the persistent effects from radiation 20-30 years prior. Since the typical lifespan of a rhesus monkey is 15-25 years those monkeys have presumably all died of old age by now, 

&gt; Also, is this future spending (aka FY 2011 budget line items) or is this something that is in the more recent past?

I&#039;m not sure exactly which part of NASA the primate studies fall under, but I remember PETA throwing a fuss about this back in November 2009, long before FY2011 was proposed:

http://www.space.com/news/091119-nasa-peta-protest.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; I would like to find a source for this informationâ€¦. seriously! I was under the impression that experiments with monkeys ended with the cancellation of the Mercury program, but I am certainly willing to be surprised and be corrected on this point.</p>
<p>Sort of. If I understand correctly, from my reading of things so far, the half-dozen rhesus monkeys exposed to radiation back in the 1960s were studied as late as the 1990s in order to understand the persistent effects from radiation 20-30 years prior. Since the typical lifespan of a rhesus monkey is 15-25 years those monkeys have presumably all died of old age by now, </p>
<p>&gt; Also, is this future spending (aka FY 2011 budget line items) or is this something that is in the more recent past?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure exactly which part of NASA the primate studies fall under, but I remember PETA throwing a fuss about this back in November 2009, long before FY2011 was proposed:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.space.com/news/091119-nasa-peta-protest.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space.com/news/091119-nasa-peta-protest.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Horning</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Horning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 01:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As it stands, NASA plans to spend close to $2 million to expose monkeys to debilitating radiation&quot;

I would like to find a source for this information.... seriously!  I was under the impression that experiments with monkeys ended with the cancellation of the Mercury program, but I am certainly willing to be surprised and be corrected on this point.

Also, is this future spending (aka FY 2011 budget line items) or is this something that is in the more recent past?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As it stands, NASA plans to spend close to $2 million to expose monkeys to debilitating radiation&#8221;</p>
<p>I would like to find a source for this information&#8230;. seriously!  I was under the impression that experiments with monkeys ended with the cancellation of the Mercury program, but I am certainly willing to be surprised and be corrected on this point.</p>
<p>Also, is this future spending (aka FY 2011 budget line items) or is this something that is in the more recent past?</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may be wrong but PETA&#039;s concerns seem to be that such experiments already took place in the past and led to nothing. If such I am all with them but I will admit I did not do my due diligence.

Oh well...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong but PETA&#8217;s concerns seem to be that such experiments already took place in the past and led to nothing. If such I am all with them but I will admit I did not do my due diligence.</p>
<p>Oh well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil H.</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/03/more-on-peta-bolden-and-isdc/#comment-308225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ian, I&#039;ve seen you post both here and at nasawatch. From my preliminary searching it looks like you&#039;ve never posted to either site prior to the peta stories. I&#039;m curious: Are you a PETA member/affiliate who&#039;s been commenting on these stories to try to garner sympathy for PETA&#039;s side?

Also, you do realize how important experiments like this are to ensuring the safety of astronauts, particularly those on future BEO missions, right? Additionally, experiments like this must go through several layers of review to ensure that the experiments are scientifically important and carried out in a responsible fashion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, I&#8217;ve seen you post both here and at nasawatch. From my preliminary searching it looks like you&#8217;ve never posted to either site prior to the peta stories. I&#8217;m curious: Are you a PETA member/affiliate who&#8217;s been commenting on these stories to try to garner sympathy for PETA&#8217;s side?</p>
<p>Also, you do realize how important experiments like this are to ensuring the safety of astronauts, particularly those on future BEO missions, right? Additionally, experiments like this must go through several layers of review to ensure that the experiments are scientifically important and carried out in a responsible fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be helpful if blog entries like this could provide some context to the incident that occurred at ISDC...namely, a few details about the experiment which prompted the interruption of Bolden&#039;s speech.

As it stands, NASA plans to spend close to $2 million to expose monkeys to debilitating radiation despite their being a long history of radiation experiments carried out specifically on primates which have not yielded any useful results.  What we have learned from those experiments is that the animals will likely suffer a great deal.  Potential harms include cancerous tumors, loss of motor control, blindness, skin damage, mental degradation, and premature death.  

With such high stakes, the polite and momentary interruption of a speech hardly seems to be a bold move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be helpful if blog entries like this could provide some context to the incident that occurred at ISDC&#8230;namely, a few details about the experiment which prompted the interruption of Bolden&#8217;s speech.</p>
<p>As it stands, NASA plans to spend close to $2 million to expose monkeys to debilitating radiation despite their being a long history of radiation experiments carried out specifically on primates which have not yielded any useful results.  What we have learned from those experiments is that the animals will likely suffer a great deal.  Potential harms include cancerous tumors, loss of motor control, blindness, skin damage, mental degradation, and premature death.  </p>
<p>With such high stakes, the polite and momentary interruption of a speech hardly seems to be a bold move.</p>
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