Comments on: Grumbling about Bolden

By: Luke

Luke — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:50:46 +0000

I feel that the past 20 years or so have been wasted effort on the silly “international” space can. It really has not resulted in anything of scientific or political recompense, short of a few thousand tons of space garbage. We should have been developing a REAL moon base, with an underground element. By now , we would have established a far larger presence and knowledge base of the moon , and a launching point for more than just another photo op.

By: brobof

brobof — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 01:06:34 +0000

DCSCA wrote @ June 26th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
I an unreliably informed that your ex VP can’t get under the bridge something about running water. And hawthorn. And garlic.

Heck I would have endorsed a Moon landing in 2020!
However for an extra $159 billion??? (6.2.4 Unconstrained Program of Record with the ISS Extension.) Ahh but you want to trash the ISS. So thats only $145 billion then. Trying to do that within the budget meant 2030’s (If ever.)
Change? Too right he changed.
Try re-reading his speech again. Without the partisan blinkers.
When I let go of what I am,
I become what I might be.
Lao Tzu

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:05:21 +0000

@brobof<– And while you're there, say 'hi' to Cheney.

Per candidate Obamaâ€™s space policy paper of 2008, â€˜Candidate Obamaâ€™ has certainly embraced â€˜changeâ€™â€“ his own.

"Embracing Human Space Exploration:

Human spaceflight is important to Americaâ€™s political, economic, technological, and scientific leadership. Barack Obama will support renewed human exploration beyond low earth orbit.â€

â€œHe endorses the goal of sending human missions to the Moon by 2020, as a precursor in an orderly progression to missions to more
distant destinations, including Mars.â€ -source,

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/policy/Space_Fact_Sheet_FINAL.pdf

Oops! Change you can believe in… President Obama, not so much with respect to space.

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:59:24 +0000

@brobof “Be careful… It’s dark and cold and wet under the bridge!” This writer wouldn’t know. You clearly do.

By: brobof

brobof — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:14:53 +0000

DCSCA wrote @ June 25th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

@brobof- â€œPrecisely hence:â€But I just have to say pretty bluntly here: Weâ€™ve been there before. Buzz has been there. â€ <â€“ Inaccurate. This writers posting is verbatum from CNN video of 4/15/10. But you go on believing President Obama's plans for a space program will materialize in 2020, 2030 and beyond. He said he'd close Gitmo, too.

I cut and pasted from the transcript: But if you want to make a point of style over substance…

writer's
verbatim <- ROTFLMAO

http://www.nasa.gov/news/media/trans/obama_ksc_trans.html http://www.nasa.gov/about/obamaspeechfeature.html

Your partisan sniping adds little to this thread. However since you raise a straw Gitmo: Bush legacy. Republican intransigence. Congressional Failure. Starting to sound familiar?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/us/politics/26gitmo.html
Be careful DCSCA. It's dark and cold and wet under the bridge!

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:51:40 +0000

Rand Simberg wrote @ June 26th, 2010 at 1:35 am
The price for Elon is a ticket to Mars. Idiot. <- Speak for yourself. You'll learn soon enough. "The price" of a ticket for 'Elon' from LA, CA to Mars, PA is less than $200.

By: Rand Simberg

Rand Simberg — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:35:16 +0000

The price for Elon is a ticket to Mars.

Idiot.

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:30:30 +0000

Rand Simberg wrote @ June 26th, 2010 at 1:16 am
OK, in other words, you persist in your ignorance of both history and Elon Musk. <— We've already ascertained 'history' is not your strong point, Rand. Suggest you brush up on how capitalists operate as well. Musk is no von Braun. He'll sell when the price is right– and rightly so. It's the right thing to do for his investors and himself. But you'll learn that soon enough.

By: Rand Simberg

Rand Simberg — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:16:01 +0000

OK, in other words, you persist in your ignorance of both history and Elon Musk.

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 04:15:02 +0000

Rand Simberg wrote @ June 25th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
OK. We get it.

We?? Idiot?? Please, speak for yourself. Let’s review your lessons for today- Nixon killed Apollo, not LBJ; Musk is a capitalist who is in business to turn a profit for himself and his investors- he is not Wernher von Braun. He has sold his interests in other projects he has started and he will sell his stake in SpaceX for the right price, as a good CEO capitalist should, for himself and his invetors; Musk and a trailer full of his space hardware is more likely to visit Mars, Pennsylvania before any of it ever gets close to the planet Mars. And finally, 1+1=2, not 11.