Comments on: Briefly: wish lists, space socialism, and questionable polls http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314814 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 03:58:17 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314814 > DCSCA wrote @ July 4th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

> @Kelly– ^… that’s ‘government subsidized and grown’ popcorn, of course. ;-)

Subsidized! No, however after years of study they will issue details popcorn technological and purchase specifications.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314810 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 03:14:22 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314810 > DCSCA wrote @ July 4th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
>== Yeah. It’s that ‘private enterprise will lead the way and build
> a golden ladder to space colonization’ thing. Of course, we know
> that over the 80-plus years of rocketry, ‘private enterprise’ has
> never led but been a follow-along, cashing-in on the successes
> of government funded rocket developement in various political guises.==

They have lead in development — but often got burned for it. Like P&W’s innovation in extremely durable reusable engines. When they bid for the Shuttle main engines they had the lowest bid, adn engines with hours of burn time on them — but Rockwells rockedye div got the contract.

>== Of course, ‘private enterprise’ did triumph, in spectacular
> technicolor, by the end of ‘Destination Moon.’ It’s a rough, but well
> scripted business plan for private space enthusiasts. Wonder if
> Elon’s seen it. Of course, he’d have to bring his own popcorn
> along for the ride. ;-)

Shudder. Yeah thats -by newspace standards – a well developed busness plan. Of course the true theme song of their financing plan is “Send Me An Angel”.

;)

]]> By: DCSCA http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314762 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:07:51 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314762 @Kelly– ^… that’s ‘government subsidized and grown’ popcorn, of course. ;-)

]]> By: DCSCA http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314761 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 22:02:35 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314761 @Kelly Starks wrote @ July 4th, 2010 at 11:35 am – Yeah. It’s that ‘private enterprise will lead the way and build a golden ladder to space colonization’ thing. Of course, we know that over the 80-plus years of rocketry, ‘private enterprise’ has never led but been a follow-along, cashing-in on the successes of government funded rocket developement in various political guises. Of course, ‘private enterprise’ did triumph, in spectacular technicolor, by the end of ‘Destination Moon.’ It’s a rough, but well scripted business plan for private space enthusiasts. Wonder if Elon’s seen it. Of course, he’d have to bring his own popcorn along for the ride. ;-)

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314709 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:35:36 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314709 ;)
Yeah, some of Musk’s statements and decisions don’t make me feel all secure here.

He’s still talking about maybe launching commercial maned Mars missions in 10 years.

8O

]]> By: DCSCA http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314651 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:08:01 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314651 @Kelly- “Musks Tesla car company stock offering raised $244 M.” Musk launched an IPO this month (instead of a rocket) because Tesla is cash poor. Which speaks volumes. Review Tesla’s history and you’ll get a sense of the ‘guidance system’ in work at SpaceX. ;-)

]]> By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314586 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 00:37:31 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314586 I never make stuff up Rand.

I’ve noticed that you have a vivid imagination when it comes to things like this.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314582 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 00:26:31 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314582 > Rand Simberg wrote @ July 3rd, 2010 at 7:07 pm

>== Do you have an actual citation? Or are you just making it up?

I never make stuff up Rand.

]]> By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314567 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 23:07:12 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314567 He was talking about maybe tens of launches per year – adn thats not what his SpaceX web page ever showed?

In what year? Do you have an actual citation? Or are you just making it up? He has a lot of business. He just landed a big launch contract from Iridium.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/06/30/briefly-wish-lists-space-socialism-and-questionable-polls/#comment-314540 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 21:49:38 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=3680#comment-314540 >Rand Simberg wrote @ July 3rd, 2010 at 4:16 pm

>> New launcher companies have not done that well, and Musk is not
>> getting the market interest he was projecting.

> He’s not?

He was talking about maybe tens of launches per year – adn thats not what his SpaceX web page ever showed?

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