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		<title>By: brobof</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/08/31/briefly-olson-on-the-nasa-bill-upcoming-space-policy-conference/#comment-326466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brobof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert Fasnacht wrote @ September 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 am 

Er you didn&#039;t read the link did you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Fasnacht wrote @ September 2nd, 2010 at 10:34 am </p>
<p>Er you didn&#8217;t read the link did you.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Fasnacht</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Fasnacht]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Comment is free, but facts are sacred!&lt;/i&gt;

Oh really? Science has a completely different view of &#039;facts&#039; - see for instance, classical mechanics and general relativity. Your world view is very naive.

Just take one look at the media and corporate propaganda in the states, political lobbying etc., and you can kiss your &#039;facts&#039; goodbye. One word : OJ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment is free, but facts are sacred!</i></p>
<p>Oh really? Science has a completely different view of &#8216;facts&#8217; &#8211; see for instance, classical mechanics and general relativity. Your world view is very naive.</p>
<p>Just take one look at the media and corporate propaganda in the states, political lobbying etc., and you can kiss your &#8216;facts&#8217; goodbye. One word : OJ.</p>
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		<title>By: brobof</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brobof]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler wrote @ September 1st, 2010 at 8:05 pm
&quot;â€¦5 billion dollars for a solar power satellite (at least) that makes 1.5KWâ€¦goofy&quot;
20 MW (max) Antenna output needs a 7 km dia Rectenna for max input. 
Experiment intends a 150 METRE dia. Rectenna...

And what&#039;s worse you aren&#039;t even consistant with your misinformation! Last week it was 1kW. But at least you are heading in the right direction.
&quot;demonstration should yield between 0.25 and 1.0 kWe&quot;
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/07/sd-hlv-early-sps-demonstration-risk-assessment/ refers

&quot;â€œThe purposes of the demonstration would be to: 

a) Demonstrate the deployment and operations of a prototype SPS at GEO. 

b) Validate the cost and operational utility of the HLV to support large payload deployment to GEO. 

c) Test a Hall-effect thruster upper stage for operations to GEO and cis-lunar space. 

d) Validate the SSP received energy density and power conversion efficiency estimates. 

e) Demonstrate useful amount of power delivery to a test rectenna system on the ground.â€&quot;
(ibid.)

A useful paper on the subject:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.docstoc.com/docs/20105355/Wireless-Power-Transmission-for-Solar-Power-Satellite-%28SPS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Wireless Power Transmission for Solar Power Satellite&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2002/nov/29/1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comment is free, but facts are sacred!&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert G. Oler wrote @ September 1st, 2010 at 8:05 pm<br />
&#8220;â€¦5 billion dollars for a solar power satellite (at least) that makes 1.5KWâ€¦goofy&#8221;<br />
20 MW (max) Antenna output needs a 7 km dia Rectenna for max input.<br />
Experiment intends a 150 METRE dia. Rectenna&#8230;</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s worse you aren&#8217;t even consistant with your misinformation! Last week it was 1kW. But at least you are heading in the right direction.<br />
&#8220;demonstration should yield between 0.25 and 1.0 kWe&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/07/sd-hlv-early-sps-demonstration-risk-assessment/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2010/07/sd-hlv-early-sps-demonstration-risk-assessment/</a> refers</p>
<p>&#8220;â€œThe purposes of the demonstration would be to: </p>
<p>a) Demonstrate the deployment and operations of a prototype SPS at GEO. </p>
<p>b) Validate the cost and operational utility of the HLV to support large payload deployment to GEO. </p>
<p>c) Test a Hall-effect thruster upper stage for operations to GEO and cis-lunar space. </p>
<p>d) Validate the SSP received energy density and power conversion efficiency estimates. </p>
<p>e) Demonstrate useful amount of power delivery to a test rectenna system on the ground.â€&#8221;<br />
(ibid.)</p>
<p>A useful paper on the subject:<br />
<a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/20105355/Wireless-Power-Transmission-for-Solar-Power-Satellite-%28SPS" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Wireless Power Transmission for Solar Power Satellite&#8221;</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2002/nov/29/1" rel="nofollow">Comment is free, but facts are sacred!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Major Tom

In an effort to carry on a discussion I again tried pasting your link

This webpage is not available.
The webpage at http://aero.org/conferences/planetarydefense/2007papers might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.&quot;

Reread step #5, genius.

&quot;5) Type the letters &#039;http://www.&#039; at the beginning of the web address if theyâ€™re not already there. The beginning of the web address is before the letters &#039;aero&#039;.&quot;

And here&#039;s an extra hint -- it&#039;s called the &quot;World Wide Web&quot; for a reason.

Keep trying, little guy.  You&#039;ll eventually get it.

&quot;I have no confidence in your ability to use web citations to support your argument.&quot;

I have zero confidence in your ability to read and follow instructions for third-graders or navigate the web at a second-grade level.

&quot;Therefore your arguments are meaningless, ergo you lose the argument.&quot;

Yes, because you can&#039;t find the letters &quot;www&quot; on your keyboard, I&#039;ve lost the argument.

Oy vey...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Major Tom</p>
<p>In an effort to carry on a discussion I again tried pasting your link</p>
<p>This webpage is not available.<br />
The webpage at <a href="http://aero.org/conferences/planetarydefense/2007papers" rel="nofollow">http://aero.org/conferences/planetarydefense/2007papers</a> might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reread step #5, genius.</p>
<p>&#8220;5) Type the letters &#8216;http://www.&#8217; at the beginning of the web address if theyâ€™re not already there. The beginning of the web address is before the letters &#8216;aero&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s an extra hint &#8212; it&#8217;s called the &#8220;World Wide Web&#8221; for a reason.</p>
<p>Keep trying, little guy.  You&#8217;ll eventually get it.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have no confidence in your ability to use web citations to support your argument.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have zero confidence in your ability to read and follow instructions for third-graders or navigate the web at a second-grade level.</p>
<p>&#8220;Therefore your arguments are meaningless, ergo you lose the argument.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, because you can&#8217;t find the letters &#8220;www&#8221; on your keyboard, I&#8217;ve lost the argument.</p>
<p>Oy vey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MrEarl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrEarl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Riiiiiiight...

Poor pitiful oler, wishing he was something he&#039;s not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riiiiiiight&#8230;</p>
<p>Poor pitiful oler, wishing he was something he&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MrEarl wrote @ September 1st, 2010 at 7:43 pm 

No, I have read the presentation, I got it on a USB memory stick as soon as it was done, no need to filter through NASAspaceflight.com...I am pretty well tied in here in houston, that is why I have been mocking it for so long ...5 billion dollars for a solar power satellite (at least) that makes 1.5KW...goofy

No, you dont get my friends name.  He is a lobbiest and that means if he sends me stuff that he gets from the people he represents or tells me about what is going on on the big hill...I dont want him to have feedback on it.

Having said that...I&#039;ve gotten it just about correct.  You will love the future without NASA HSF...it is going to be &quot;something wonderful&quot; (I hope)

Robert G. Oler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrEarl wrote @ September 1st, 2010 at 7:43 pm </p>
<p>No, I have read the presentation, I got it on a USB memory stick as soon as it was done, no need to filter through NASAspaceflight.com&#8230;I am pretty well tied in here in houston, that is why I have been mocking it for so long &#8230;5 billion dollars for a solar power satellite (at least) that makes 1.5KW&#8230;goofy</p>
<p>No, you dont get my friends name.  He is a lobbiest and that means if he sends me stuff that he gets from the people he represents or tells me about what is going on on the big hill&#8230;I dont want him to have feedback on it.</p>
<p>Having said that&#8230;I&#8217;ve gotten it just about correct.  You will love the future without NASA HSF&#8230;it is going to be &#8220;something wonderful&#8221; (I hope)</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: MrEarl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrEarl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re in rare form today robert.  You didn&#039;t even read the piece so how can you comment on it?  The link took you directly to a PDF of the presentation that the HEFT team gave to Bolden and Garver, no NASAspaceflight.com cheerleading.  

You have yet to reveal who your &quot;chum&quot; is, or to make any attempt to validate your claim of what he said to you.  There&#039;s no proof that you know him that well, it at all, no proof that he&#039;s in a position to know anything about NASA&#039;s current plans for HSF or that he talked to you about it at all!  

&quot;It is not very objective.&quot;
So I guess we&#039;re supposed to take at face value that you and your imaginary friend are objective.  
Goofy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re in rare form today robert.  You didn&#8217;t even read the piece so how can you comment on it?  The link took you directly to a PDF of the presentation that the HEFT team gave to Bolden and Garver, no NASAspaceflight.com cheerleading.  </p>
<p>You have yet to reveal who your &#8220;chum&#8221; is, or to make any attempt to validate your claim of what he said to you.  There&#8217;s no proof that you know him that well, it at all, no proof that he&#8217;s in a position to know anything about NASA&#8217;s current plans for HSF or that he talked to you about it at all!  </p>
<p>&#8220;It is not very objective.&#8221;<br />
So I guess we&#8217;re supposed to take at face value that you and your imaginary friend are objective.<br />
Goofy</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile, in the real world...

Another day moves from dawn to dusk;
And still no humans flown by Musk.
The clocks tick-tock; the calendar flies;
But no manned Dragons cross our skies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, in the real world&#8230;</p>
<p>Another day moves from dawn to dusk;<br />
And still no humans flown by Musk.<br />
The clocks tick-tock; the calendar flies;<br />
But no manned Dragons cross our skies.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MrEarl wrote @ September 1st, 2010 at 6:33 pm 

you can draw your own conclusions just dont be surprised if someone challenges the basis on which they are drawn.

The article at NASAspaceflight is just another in the endless bit of cheerleading for a heavy lift, particularly for a SDV and certainly for DIRECT that is done there.

It is not very objective.

Robert G. Oler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrEarl wrote @ September 1st, 2010 at 6:33 pm </p>
<p>you can draw your own conclusions just dont be surprised if someone challenges the basis on which they are drawn.</p>
<p>The article at NASAspaceflight is just another in the endless bit of cheerleading for a heavy lift, particularly for a SDV and certainly for DIRECT that is done there.</p>
<p>It is not very objective.</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: MrEarl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MrEarl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No oler, what&#039;s &quot;goofy&quot; is for you to expect people to take your hearsay as truth or fact.  
Are you denying the information put forth by NASAspaceflght.com?  Do you have any evidence to back it up?  No, you don&#039;t.  

This isn&#039;t about my information.  It&#039;s at the link I supplied for everyone to read for themselves.  The Senate bill and accompanying report is in the public domain.  You can draw your own conclusions.   

Until you have something of substance to contribute go crawl back under your bridge like a good little troll.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No oler, what&#8217;s &#8220;goofy&#8221; is for you to expect people to take your hearsay as truth or fact.<br />
Are you denying the information put forth by NASAspaceflght.com?  Do you have any evidence to back it up?  No, you don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about my information.  It&#8217;s at the link I supplied for everyone to read for themselves.  The Senate bill and accompanying report is in the public domain.  You can draw your own conclusions.   </p>
<p>Until you have something of substance to contribute go crawl back under your bridge like a good little troll.</p>
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