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		<title>By: Ferris Valyn</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/09/24/no-love-for-the-house-compromise-bill/#comment-329610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris Valyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 17:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt, 

That link led to a &quot;can&#039;t find the file you are looking for&quot; - for AIP.

I am currently watching the MIT video]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, </p>
<p>That link led to a &#8220;can&#8217;t find the file you are looking for&#8221; &#8211; for AIP.</p>
<p>I am currently watching the MIT video</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wiser</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/09/24/no-love-for-the-house-compromise-bill/#comment-329302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Wiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ferris: here&#039;s a link to Bolden and his lease comments. 

http://www.aip.org/fyi/2010/037

And a video from MIT:

http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/782/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferris: here&#8217;s a link to Bolden and his lease comments. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aip.org/fyi/2010/037" rel="nofollow">http://www.aip.org/fyi/2010/037</a></p>
<p>And a video from MIT:</p>
<p><a href="http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/782/" rel="nofollow">http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/782/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Those of us who were Constellation supporters will get something out of it. Itâ€™s called Orion with Heavy-Lift.&lt;/em&gt;

Probably not, actually, but the contractors will get to waste more money on them for another year or two until it&#039;s finally recognized that both are unnecessary for human exploration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Those of us who were Constellation supporters will get something out of it. Itâ€™s called Orion with Heavy-Lift.</em></p>
<p>Probably not, actually, but the contractors will get to waste more money on them for another year or two until it&#8217;s finally recognized that both are unnecessary for human exploration.</p>
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		<title>By: Gppgaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/09/24/no-love-for-the-house-compromise-bill/#comment-329284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gppgaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Calling AW â€œAviation Leak &amp; Space Mythologyâ€ is apparently a widespread joke in the industry.&lt;/i&gt;

Funny because so true.  The sad thing is that there&#039;s quite a bit more reality and a bit less of the mythology about space in AW&amp;ST then you&#039;ll find in the space activist community.   For a dose of reality I refer folks to their excellent articles on the comsat and international launch industries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Calling AW â€œAviation Leak &amp; Space Mythologyâ€ is apparently a widespread joke in the industry.</i></p>
<p>Funny because so true.  The sad thing is that there&#8217;s quite a bit more reality and a bit less of the mythology about space in AW&amp;ST then you&#8217;ll find in the space activist community.   For a dose of reality I refer folks to their excellent articles on the comsat and international launch industries.</p>
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		<title>By: Martijn Meijering</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martijn Meijering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Calling AW &quot;Aviation Leak &amp; Space Mythology&quot; is apparently a widespread joke in the industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling AW &#8220;Aviation Leak &amp; Space Mythology&#8221; is apparently a widespread joke in the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt Wiser wrote @ September 28th, 2010 at 3:48 am

&quot;&lt;i&gt;contrary to what you think, I will be cheering. Reluctantly, but cheering. &lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Glad to hear.

Now if you could, please stop with the constant &quot;&lt;i&gt;Aviation Week/Leak&lt;/i&gt;&quot; references - once or twice it&#039;s a joke, but now it distracts from what you&#039;re saying.  It is the job of the media to dig up information, so singling out Aviation Week is kind of weird.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Wiser wrote @ September 28th, 2010 at 3:48 am</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>contrary to what you think, I will be cheering. Reluctantly, but cheering. </i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Glad to hear.</p>
<p>Now if you could, please stop with the constant &#8220;<i>Aviation Week/Leak</i>&#8221; references &#8211; once or twice it&#8217;s a joke, but now it distracts from what you&#8217;re saying.  It is the job of the media to dig up information, so singling out Aviation Week is kind of weird.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris Valyn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris Valyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Wiser,

Again, I believe you are remembering him talking about it, but in those instances he did not endorse either model, at least to my knowledge.  I did a quick look at various places, and found no examples of him endorsing one model over another.  I did not look through the entirety of the testimony (because I couldn&#039;t find a full transcript, and I haven&#039;t the time to watch it), but I what I did find did not include an endorsement of car rental over taxi cab.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Wiser,</p>
<p>Again, I believe you are remembering him talking about it, but in those instances he did not endorse either model, at least to my knowledge.  I did a quick look at various places, and found no examples of him endorsing one model over another.  I did not look through the entirety of the testimony (because I couldn&#8217;t find a full transcript, and I haven&#8217;t the time to watch it), but I what I did find did not include an endorsement of car rental over taxi cab.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wiser</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Wiser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ferris, Bolden has said it in a House hearing I believe, and I&#039;m pretty sure, but not 100% certain, he was also quoted by Aviation Week/Leak. 

Ron, contrary to what you think, I will be cheering. Reluctantly, but cheering. Those of us who were Constellation supporters will get something out of it. It&#039;s called Orion with Heavy-Lift. Develop and test both, and then start going places. Unlike Griffin and Rep. Gordon, I do recognize that it&#039;s time to move on and get with the new program. Gordon&#039;s retiring, and Griffin (who had the &quot;my way or the highway&quot; in regards to HSF) stays in academia. Where he should&#039;ve been in the first place. If a different administrator  had been appointed, or Sean O&#039;Keefe had stayed on, we wouldn&#039;t be having this discussion. Ed Crawley &quot;made the sale&quot; on FlexPath, as I&#039;ve said before. Now let&#039;s see where it leads us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferris, Bolden has said it in a House hearing I believe, and I&#8217;m pretty sure, but not 100% certain, he was also quoted by Aviation Week/Leak. </p>
<p>Ron, contrary to what you think, I will be cheering. Reluctantly, but cheering. Those of us who were Constellation supporters will get something out of it. It&#8217;s called Orion with Heavy-Lift. Develop and test both, and then start going places. Unlike Griffin and Rep. Gordon, I do recognize that it&#8217;s time to move on and get with the new program. Gordon&#8217;s retiring, and Griffin (who had the &#8220;my way or the highway&#8221; in regards to HSF) stays in academia. Where he should&#8217;ve been in the first place. If a different administrator  had been appointed, or Sean O&#8217;Keefe had stayed on, we wouldn&#8217;t be having this discussion. Ed Crawley &#8220;made the sale&#8221; on FlexPath, as I&#8217;ve said before. Now let&#8217;s see where it leads us.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 04:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coastal Ron wrote @ September 27th, 2010 at 11:33 pm &quot;...yet another reason that NASA should fund commercial crew development! Nyet, Comrade Ron. Private capital markets are the place for capitalist commerical space to get funding, not socialist handouts from the United States Treasury.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coastal Ron wrote @ September 27th, 2010 at 11:33 pm &#8220;&#8230;yet another reason that NASA should fund commercial crew development! Nyet, Comrade Ron. Private capital markets are the place for capitalist commerical space to get funding, not socialist handouts from the United States Treasury.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 03:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matt Wiser wrote @ September 27th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;...but both Bolden has been on record (Aviation Week/Leak among other sources-Space.com is another) as preferring the lease option. Peggy Whitsonâ€™s also been quoted as saying thatâ€™s the Astronaut Corpsâ€™ preference.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I guess my answer would be - so what!

If NASA tells Boeing and SpaceX that they want to buy or lease their crew systems, do you know what they will say?  How many would you like, and how quickly can we get them to you?

If anything, getting the manufacturers out of the crew services business is a sign of a maturing business sector.

Thanks Matt - yet another reason that NASA should fund commercial crew development!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Wiser wrote @ September 27th, 2010 at 10:36 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>&#8230;but both Bolden has been on record (Aviation Week/Leak among other sources-Space.com is another) as preferring the lease option. Peggy Whitsonâ€™s also been quoted as saying thatâ€™s the Astronaut Corpsâ€™ preference.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess my answer would be &#8211; so what!</p>
<p>If NASA tells Boeing and SpaceX that they want to buy or lease their crew systems, do you know what they will say?  How many would you like, and how quickly can we get them to you?</p>
<p>If anything, getting the manufacturers out of the crew services business is a sign of a maturing business sector.</p>
<p>Thanks Matt &#8211; yet another reason that NASA should fund commercial crew development!</p>
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