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		<title>By: Reality Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reality Bites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;People, face the facts: Obama DID forbid future Lunar flights!&lt;/i&gt;

Er ... no he did not. I believe the actual quote was :

&#039;I just have to say pretty bluntly here, we&#039;ve been there before&#039;

which hardly forbids any return. But heckava lie there Mr. Castro!

So much for your &#039;facts&#039;. Have you ever considered reality? It works for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>People, face the facts: Obama DID forbid future Lunar flights!</i></p>
<p>Er &#8230; no he did not. I believe the actual quote was :</p>
<p>&#8216;I just have to say pretty bluntly here, we&#8217;ve been there before&#8217;</p>
<p>which hardly forbids any return. But heckava lie there Mr. Castro!</p>
<p>So much for your &#8216;facts&#8217;. Have you ever considered reality? It works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/10/06/the-best-language-for-an-hlv-in-the-authorization-bill/#comment-330280</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People, face the facts: Obama DID forbid future Lunar flights! He totally trivialized any concept for further manned forays out there, instead opting for the sensational &quot;we&#039;re going to 100% Virgin Territory&quot; approach: Which will bring us NO bases NOR resource exploitation. The Antarctic is occupied by scientific personnel today, precisely, because America&#039;s national leadership in the 1950&#039;s considered it important to re-visit a previously reached frontier, and build &amp; expand on what was done in the far past. The Moon is the next Antarctica! Let&#039;s deal with it, pronto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, face the facts: Obama DID forbid future Lunar flights! He totally trivialized any concept for further manned forays out there, instead opting for the sensational &#8220;we&#8217;re going to 100% Virgin Territory&#8221; approach: Which will bring us NO bases NOR resource exploitation. The Antarctic is occupied by scientific personnel today, precisely, because America&#8217;s national leadership in the 1950&#8217;s considered it important to re-visit a previously reached frontier, and build &amp; expand on what was done in the far past. The Moon is the next Antarctica! Let&#8217;s deal with it, pronto.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reality Bites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yawn. Is that all you got, Ed? Please try harder. And check back here in five years of so, ok? We&#039;ll give you the results then, they can&#039;t be as bad as the last five years were. But they certainly won&#039;t be much better on your track.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn. Is that all you got, Ed? Please try harder. And check back here in five years of so, ok? We&#8217;ll give you the results then, they can&#8217;t be as bad as the last five years were. But they certainly won&#8217;t be much better on your track.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Tessmacher</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/10/06/the-best-language-for-an-hlv-in-the-authorization-bill/#comment-330219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Tessmacher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NASA has one chance, ONE CHANCE to get this right. They already proved that they can&#039;t handle design work on their own, especially if it&#039;s forced by an ego-driven administrator like Griffin, to build the &quot;BIGGEST BADDEST ROCKET EVER!&quot; Shuttle-derived HLV, which was what the original 2005 NASA Authorization called for, could have been flying already if the engineers had been allowed to engineer, instead of having to keep their megalomaniac administrator on his self-imposed path to historic glory. 

We didn&#039;t need to out-Von Braun Von Braun. DIRECT Jupiter would have been enough to have gotten us back to the moon, and prepping to go on to Mars. But no, Griffin imposed his will on the data, and lied to the American Public AND to Congress, by massaging the data, and in some cases, putting a thumb on the scales, and claiming that DIRECT Jupiter &quot;defied the laws of physics&quot;... Well, I don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s rosy red rear how many degrees that man had, he had no clue what he was doing, and darn near killed NASA doing it. If the remaining Griffinites at NASA want to keep treading down that path to Ares all over again by building a rocket that nobody could ever afford to fly, then we just will have to do without the agency. Because that&#039;s what will happen if they don&#039;t get on with building DIRECT Jupiter. Period. No way around it. 

NASA, don&#039;t foul this one up, this is your LAST chance. The Senate said, &quot;Here is what you get. Build a rocket with this.&quot; which is how it ought to be done, instead of &quot;we want to build this ginormous rocket, give us three times what it will cost!&quot; NASA, you get what you need, shut up and build the rocket... Don&#039;t try to tell us that you don&#039;t know how to build rockets with the available resources. Because if you try to claim that it can&#039;t be done, then you don&#039;t need to have any rockets. We&#039;ll let the Russians go to ISS, and the Indians and the Chinese tramp all over our Apollo sites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA has one chance, ONE CHANCE to get this right. They already proved that they can&#8217;t handle design work on their own, especially if it&#8217;s forced by an ego-driven administrator like Griffin, to build the &#8220;BIGGEST BADDEST ROCKET EVER!&#8221; Shuttle-derived HLV, which was what the original 2005 NASA Authorization called for, could have been flying already if the engineers had been allowed to engineer, instead of having to keep their megalomaniac administrator on his self-imposed path to historic glory. </p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t need to out-Von Braun Von Braun. DIRECT Jupiter would have been enough to have gotten us back to the moon, and prepping to go on to Mars. But no, Griffin imposed his will on the data, and lied to the American Public AND to Congress, by massaging the data, and in some cases, putting a thumb on the scales, and claiming that DIRECT Jupiter &#8220;defied the laws of physics&#8221;&#8230; Well, I don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s rosy red rear how many degrees that man had, he had no clue what he was doing, and darn near killed NASA doing it. If the remaining Griffinites at NASA want to keep treading down that path to Ares all over again by building a rocket that nobody could ever afford to fly, then we just will have to do without the agency. Because that&#8217;s what will happen if they don&#8217;t get on with building DIRECT Jupiter. Period. No way around it. </p>
<p>NASA, don&#8217;t foul this one up, this is your LAST chance. The Senate said, &#8220;Here is what you get. Build a rocket with this.&#8221; which is how it ought to be done, instead of &#8220;we want to build this ginormous rocket, give us three times what it will cost!&#8221; NASA, you get what you need, shut up and build the rocket&#8230; Don&#8217;t try to tell us that you don&#8217;t know how to build rockets with the available resources. Because if you try to claim that it can&#8217;t be done, then you don&#8217;t need to have any rockets. We&#8217;ll let the Russians go to ISS, and the Indians and the Chinese tramp all over our Apollo sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Beancounter from Downunder</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beancounter from Downunder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How long precisely have you been doing that Meg?   &#039;Reading&#039; that is?  Forget about the &#039;understanding&#039; bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long precisely have you been doing that Meg?   &#8216;Reading&#8217; that is?  Forget about the &#8216;understanding&#8217; bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reality Bites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I fear for our astronauts, riding the train all the way from Utah to the cape!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear for our astronauts, riding the train all the way from Utah to the cape!</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The crew of the Soyuz, of course.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crew of the Soyuz, of course.  <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meg wrote @ October 7th, 2010 at 12:29 pm

Mr Oler,

When you made your â€œinterestingâ€ comment, you didnâ€™t know the status of the crew (whether they were injured or worse)...

the crew of what?  The Train....

what crew?

Robert G. Oler]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meg wrote @ October 7th, 2010 at 12:29 pm</p>
<p>Mr Oler,</p>
<p>When you made your â€œinterestingâ€ comment, you didnâ€™t know the status of the crew (whether they were injured or worse)&#8230;</p>
<p>the crew of what?  The Train&#8230;.</p>
<p>what crew?</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reality Bites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;When you made your â€œinterestingâ€ comment, you didnâ€™t know the status of the crew (whether they were injured or worse).&quot;

I&#039;m pretty sure the train engineers had a sore ass from the bump, Meg, thank you so much for your &#039;concern&#039; about some Russian train engineers. What would be great is if you took as much concern about US astronauts riding on top of, or in the side of, segmented shuttle solid rocket boosters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you made your â€œinterestingâ€ comment, you didnâ€™t know the status of the crew (whether they were injured or worse).&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure the train engineers had a sore ass from the bump, Meg, thank you so much for your &#8216;concern&#8217; about some Russian train engineers. What would be great is if you took as much concern about US astronauts riding on top of, or in the side of, segmented shuttle solid rocket boosters.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Oler,

When you made your &quot;interesting&quot; comment, you didn&#039;t know the status of the crew (whether they were injured or worse).  Down play it anyway you want but most of the long termed readers know about your behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Oler,</p>
<p>When you made your &#8220;interesting&#8221; comment, you didn&#8217;t know the status of the crew (whether they were injured or worse).  Down play it anyway you want but most of the long termed readers know about your behavior.</p>
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