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		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/10/07/nasa-authorization-bill-to-be-signed-today/#comment-330433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to let everyone know that NASA have announced a teleconference today (10/11/10) regarding the signing of the authorisation bill.  That suggests that it is going to happen today.

Unless I&#039;m very much mistaken, this is the very last possible day for it to be done and still be valid.  I wonder if someone is trying to tell someone something.  Either that or someone was hoping that something would come up before now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to let everyone know that NASA have announced a teleconference today (10/11/10) regarding the signing of the authorisation bill.  That suggests that it is going to happen today.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m very much mistaken, this is the very last possible day for it to be done and still be valid.  I wonder if someone is trying to tell someone something.  Either that or someone was hoping that something would come up before now.</p>
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		<title>By: mr. mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mr. mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben -I don&#039;t see that as well. Spacex has been totally tranparent when it comes to development. Just look at the integration photos for the new Falcon 9 COTS -1 vehicle. I wouldn&#039;t call that hiding anything. When Spacex has successes nay sayers try to find anything to beat them up on. Personally I&#039;m growing very tired of this. Wasn&#039;t it amightywind who said that the second stage of the first Falcon 9 flight fell out of orbit? That was after multiple inependent trackng station VERFIED that it was in orbit.  All I can say is wow???!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben -I don&#8217;t see that as well. Spacex has been totally tranparent when it comes to development. Just look at the integration photos for the new Falcon 9 COTS -1 vehicle. I wouldn&#8217;t call that hiding anything. When Spacex has successes nay sayers try to find anything to beat them up on. Personally I&#8217;m growing very tired of this. Wasn&#8217;t it amightywind who said that the second stage of the first Falcon 9 flight fell out of orbit? That was after multiple inependent trackng station VERFIED that it was in orbit.  All I can say is wow???!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honestly Ben,  I didn&#039;t catch that.  Must have been during one of the colds that my 4 year old brings home for me to suffer though, but this is the first I&#039;ve heard of it.

And yes, we have been spoiled by SpaceX, and I hope it continues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly Ben,  I didn&#8217;t catch that.  Must have been during one of the colds that my 4 year old brings home for me to suffer though, but this is the first I&#8217;ve heard of it.</p>
<p>And yes, we have been spoiled by SpaceX, and I hope it continues.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/10/07/nasa-authorization-bill-to-be-signed-today/#comment-330133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Bennett,

Come on, Bennett, don&#039;t tell me that you don&#039;t remember them insisting that the guys at CCAFS turn off all the cameras around SLC-40 during the WDRs and test fire! I admit that we&#039;ve probably been spoilt by the level of detail that they normally provide (especially compared to, say, ULA&#039;s launches for NRO).  However, since Falcon 1 flight 5, the lid has started slowly coming down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bennett,</p>
<p>Come on, Bennett, don&#8217;t tell me that you don&#8217;t remember them insisting that the guys at CCAFS turn off all the cameras around SLC-40 during the WDRs and test fire! I admit that we&#8217;ve probably been spoilt by the level of detail that they normally provide (especially compared to, say, ULA&#8217;s launches for NRO).  However, since Falcon 1 flight 5, the lid has started slowly coming down.</p>
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		<title>By: Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The ludicrous lengths they went to to stop unauthorised images of the Falcon 9 prototype flightâ€™s wet dress rehearsal is proof of that.&lt;/i&gt;

Ben, what did they do?  I didn&#039;t see any of that, so I must not visit the same sites as you.  I do recognize that they&#039;ve slowed down the release of updates and new videos.  SpaceX and Armadillo have been incredibly inspirational in the way they&#039;ve let us watch the development, tests, and progress towards flight.  

I never though I&#039;d see the day when a rocket company did that, and I still hope that it catches on for other companies.  I watched the streaming of the Atlas V launch a week or so back, is this something ULA has been doing all along?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The ludicrous lengths they went to to stop unauthorised images of the Falcon 9 prototype flightâ€™s wet dress rehearsal is proof of that.</i></p>
<p>Ben, what did they do?  I didn&#8217;t see any of that, so I must not visit the same sites as you.  I do recognize that they&#8217;ve slowed down the release of updates and new videos.  SpaceX and Armadillo have been incredibly inspirational in the way they&#8217;ve let us watch the development, tests, and progress towards flight.  </p>
<p>I never though I&#8217;d see the day when a rocket company did that, and I still hope that it catches on for other companies.  I watched the streaming of the Atlas V launch a week or so back, is this something ULA has been doing all along?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/10/07/nasa-authorization-bill-to-be-signed-today/#comment-330123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Beancounter

Oh, I think we&#039;re getting the message.  SpaceX has recently decided that discretion is a virtue and has massively reduced its mass-media presence.  The ludicrous lengths they went to to stop unauthorised images of the Falcon 9 prototype flight&#039;s wet dress rehearsal is proof of that.

Of course, I don&#039;t blame them.  Uncontrolled information release can cause private companies problems with investors.  Worse, we Internet-types are shameless speculators and have a nasty habit of couching our pet theories as if they were facts.  That level of guesswork-conflated-to-fact isn&#039;t something that a private company working on perfecting what is, for them, a new capability, wants to have regarding their products and quality control procedures.

We&#039;re just going to have to get used to knowing only what the guys at SpaceX, ULA, Sierra Nevada, OSC, &lt;i&gt;et al&lt;/i&gt; want us (and, more importantly, their investors) to know. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Beancounter</p>
<p>Oh, I think we&#8217;re getting the message.  SpaceX has recently decided that discretion is a virtue and has massively reduced its mass-media presence.  The ludicrous lengths they went to to stop unauthorised images of the Falcon 9 prototype flight&#8217;s wet dress rehearsal is proof of that.</p>
<p>Of course, I don&#8217;t blame them.  Uncontrolled information release can cause private companies problems with investors.  Worse, we Internet-types are shameless speculators and have a nasty habit of couching our pet theories as if they were facts.  That level of guesswork-conflated-to-fact isn&#8217;t something that a private company working on perfecting what is, for them, a new capability, wants to have regarding their products and quality control procedures.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re just going to have to get used to knowing only what the guys at SpaceX, ULA, Sierra Nevada, OSC, <i>et al</i> want us (and, more importantly, their investors) to know. <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Beancounter from Downunder</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2010/10/07/nasa-authorization-bill-to-be-signed-today/#comment-330121</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beancounter from Downunder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeh I think some of us have been spoiled by companies like SpaceX and Armadillo and don&#039;t understand that it&#039;s a privilege to have access to up to date info&#039; which other companies would consider private and confidential.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh I think some of us have been spoiled by companies like SpaceX and Armadillo and don&#8217;t understand that it&#8217;s a privilege to have access to up to date info&#8217; which other companies would consider private and confidential.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 05:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lars wrote @ October 8th, 2010 at 12:25 am

&quot;&lt;i&gt;If they are eager to push for Commercial Crew, they should be more open about their progress, rather than treat it as a black project.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I&#039;m always mystified by comments like this.  Sierra Nevada&#039;s customer is NASA for the Dream Chaser, and I&#039;m sure they have each other on speed-dial and Facebook.

Everyone else, including you and me, are just observers in a slow drama - very slow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lars wrote @ October 8th, 2010 at 12:25 am</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>If they are eager to push for Commercial Crew, they should be more open about their progress, rather than treat it as a black project.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always mystified by comments like this.  Sierra Nevada&#8217;s customer is NASA for the Dream Chaser, and I&#8217;m sure they have each other on speed-dial and Facebook.</p>
<p>Everyone else, including you and me, are just observers in a slow drama &#8211; very slow.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Major Tom, I hope you are right re: DreamChaser.

Sierra Nevada may be an established company - I just question how much effort they are expending on DreamChaser. It is not their primary focus for sure.

If they are eager to push for Commercial Crew, they should be more open about their progress, rather than treat it as a black project. (if that is indeed what is going on)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major Tom, I hope you are right re: DreamChaser.</p>
<p>Sierra Nevada may be an established company &#8211; I just question how much effort they are expending on DreamChaser. It is not their primary focus for sure.</p>
<p>If they are eager to push for Commercial Crew, they should be more open about their progress, rather than treat it as a black project. (if that is indeed what is going on)</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;AFAIK Sierra Nevada has not built a DreamChaser mock-up. They just took over the HL-20 mock-up NASA built, and slapped their own name on it. (correct me if I am wrong)&quot;

I doubt that&#039;s true because the NASA mockup is a couple decades old and housed ten crew while the SNC version is downscaled to six crew.

And it misses the point, anyway.  SNC is building on a design and outer mold line with tons of design and testing heritage courtesy of prior government investment.  If it&#039;s applicable and useful, SNC should leverage NASA&#039;s mockup and any other models, data, etc. that NASA generated for the HL-20.  Recreating engineering tools that already exist is a stupid waste of money.

&quot;While they certainly might have made progress, they have not shown any of it publicly.  Whatever funding they have received seems to have gone towards power-points.&quot;

Per Mr. Meijering&#039;s post, the CCDev milestones that Sierra Nevada must meet to get paid by NASA are publicly available.

&quot;There is zero evidence that they have any intention or capability of actually producing hardware.&quot;

SNC has 2,000 employees and over 40 years of fairly complex systems integration experience:

sncorp.com/

SNC&#039;s Dreamchaser team includes Boeing Phantom Works, Draper Labs, Aerojet, MDA, and others.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceDev_Dream_Chaser

As of February, the company has put in $10 million of its own funding:

aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=awst&amp;id=news/awst/2010/02/22/AW_02_22_2010_p53-204735.xml&amp;headline=Sierra%20Nevada%20Building%20On%20NASA%20Design

SNC arguably has both the capbility and intent.

FWIW...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;AFAIK Sierra Nevada has not built a DreamChaser mock-up. They just took over the HL-20 mock-up NASA built, and slapped their own name on it. (correct me if I am wrong)&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt that&#8217;s true because the NASA mockup is a couple decades old and housed ten crew while the SNC version is downscaled to six crew.</p>
<p>And it misses the point, anyway.  SNC is building on a design and outer mold line with tons of design and testing heritage courtesy of prior government investment.  If it&#8217;s applicable and useful, SNC should leverage NASA&#8217;s mockup and any other models, data, etc. that NASA generated for the HL-20.  Recreating engineering tools that already exist is a stupid waste of money.</p>
<p>&#8220;While they certainly might have made progress, they have not shown any of it publicly.  Whatever funding they have received seems to have gone towards power-points.&#8221;</p>
<p>Per Mr. Meijering&#8217;s post, the CCDev milestones that Sierra Nevada must meet to get paid by NASA are publicly available.</p>
<p>&#8220;There is zero evidence that they have any intention or capability of actually producing hardware.&#8221;</p>
<p>SNC has 2,000 employees and over 40 years of fairly complex systems integration experience:</p>
<p>sncorp.com/</p>
<p>SNC&#8217;s Dreamchaser team includes Boeing Phantom Works, Draper Labs, Aerojet, MDA, and others.</p>
<p>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceDev_Dream_Chaser</p>
<p>As of February, the company has put in $10 million of its own funding:</p>
<p>aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=awst&amp;id=news/awst/2010/02/22/AW_02_22_2010_p53-204735.xml&amp;headline=Sierra%20Nevada%20Building%20On%20NASA%20Design</p>
<p>SNC arguably has both the capbility and intent.</p>
<p>FWIW&#8230;</p>
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