Comments on: “That can’t be too hard to undo”

By: Vladislaw

Vladislaw — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:52:32 +0000

The space science that the military needs doesn’t that currently get done for them by NASA at no cost? Material studies is done on the ISS and space weather as it relates to military sats?

By: common sense

common sense — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:23:47 +0000

@ Chris Castro wrote @ January 7th, 2011 at 2:10 am

“It wouldnâ€™t even be a mock-up, if it wasnâ€™t for freaking Barack Obama cancelling the new Moon program!!”

You’re right it would not even be a mock up! Do you understand what you actually write?

“Orion wouldâ€™ve been Americaâ€™s next major manned vehicle, plus the Ares 1 could have easily been the new Saturn 1B-type of LEO access launcher. (You recall: the rocket that was used to ferry the Skylab crews in the 1970â€²s.) ”

Not a chance.

“Because of Mr. Obama, now we have the makings of rudderless chaos, with regard to what NASA will now do, to provide for a viable crew excursion vehicle.”

It’s not “excursion” it is “exploration”. NASA once tried “excursion” with the Lunar Module and they backed off real quickly. Any idea why?

“Under Obamaspace, the ISS will NEVER be allowed to end, because then, what will the commercial space firms & space hobbyists have left to do??!! Get ready for an ISS-2, come 2020!!”

That would be pretty fantastic I think! ISS-2 and 3 and 4…

“The U.S. wonâ€™t ever leave LEO, for the next twenty years, easy!”

Says the expert. Oh well…

By: Byeman

Byeman — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:14:11 +0000

“missile developmentâ€“ funding, you know. So it will be again in the Age of Austerity. DoD is â€˜off limitsâ€™ for the budget ax per Boehner as of now. NASA, as you know, is not. You really donâ€™t know much about the agency. Life-sciences guy most likely.”

Huh?
Look in the mirror. You really donâ€™t know much, period.
Spaceflight is not just launch vehicles. The military does not care about space science.

“The military will salute and do as its told’
No it won’t because it will not be given NASA’s tasks. It is an idiotic idea. a. It won’t never be proposed by a sane person
b. congress will not pass any legislation to do such thing.

Me? I am former military space and knows what goes on in DOD space. Now, I do launch vehicle integration.

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By: Byeman

Byeman — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:06:29 +0000

“Ares 1 could have easily been the new Saturn 1B-type of LEO access launcher”

Wake up and see the reality.
No, Ares 1 couldn’t be it, it was too expensive and redundant.

“The U.S. wonâ€™t ever leave LEO, for the next twenty years, easy”

Now you nailed it! You described Constellation.

By: Chris Castro

Chris Castro — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:10:48 +0000

@commonsense…..; It wouldn’t even be a mock-up, if it wasn’t for freaking Barack Obama cancelling the new Moon program!! Orion would’ve been America’s next major manned vehicle, plus the Ares 1 could have easily been the new Saturn 1B-type of LEO access launcher. (You recall: the rocket that was used to ferry the Skylab crews in the 1970’s.) Because of Mr. Obama, now we have the makings of rudderless chaos, with regard to what NASA will now do, to provide for a viable crew excursion vehicle. Under Obamaspace, the ISS will NEVER be allowed to end, because then, what will the commercial space firms & space hobbyists have left to do??!! Get ready for an ISS-2, come 2020!! The U.S. won’t ever leave LEO, for the next twenty years, easy!

By: Rand Simberg

Rand Simberg — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:06:44 +0000

DoD is â€˜off limitsâ€™ for the budget ax per Boehner as of now. No, it's not: "Republican lawmakers, who have taken control of the House of Representatives after elections in November, say defense spending will not be excluded from budget cuts though they have suggested military programs will be spared deep reductions." What a maroon.

By: common sense

common sense — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:43:02 +0000

@ DCSCA wrote @ January 6th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

“NASAâ€™ HSF future is Orion. ”

Then it is a pretty grim future. I mean visiting the Orion’s mock up on a regular basis may get boring after a while.

Oh well.

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:34:12 +0000

NASA’ HSF future is Orion. That’s their manned space program for the Age of Austerity. They gotta think Mercury/Gemini and keep their Apollo appetites in check for most of the decade.

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:31:38 +0000

@byeman wrote @ January 6th, 2011 at 8:39 am
‘Use’ in strict terms, has nothing to do with it. The military will salute and do as its told. And, of course, the DoD managed the missile and space efforts at the start, and were sorely disappointed to have it taken away and established under a civilian guise. Von Braun himself was opposed to NASA at first, wanting the army to maintain missile development– funding, you know. So it will be again in the Age of Austerity. DoD is ‘off limits’ for the budget ax per Boehner as of now. NASA, as you know, is not. You really don’t know much about the agency. Life-sciences guy most likely. Have your resume ready, fella.

By: DCSCA

DCSCA — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:24:11 +0000

@Presley Cannady wrote @ January 6th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Personnel in terms of retired vesus expired; Province in terms of the military managing space projects currently under the sole province of NASA. It would be an relatively easy fit under their umbrella. The critical factor is to maintain funding– the military can manage it well if not better than the current teams.
@Rand Simberg wrote @ January 6th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
How would you know- history has proven to be a weak point for you but the fear of a DoD umbrella is very real to a shill for commerical space. All those military contractors to compete with.