If you meant Senator Nelson, then you should have written “Senator Nelson”, instead of vague references to anonymous “supporters”.

Be specific. Don’t be a lazy writer and expect other posters to read your mind.

“Perhaps the Major was confused by my using authorization and appropriation together – often, with more experienced Presidents”

Presidents (or the White House) don’t write legislation, whether it’s an authorization bill, an appropriations bill, or any other kind of bill.

Again, this is middle school civics. If you don’t grasp the basics of how the U.S. federal government works, then you shouldn’t be commenting on it.

“… the two bills are very similar.”

They’re almost never similar. The authorizers practically always set spending ceilings that are hundreds of millions of dollars, and usually billions of dollars, more than what the appropriators actually provide funds for.

“Apparently that is not going to be the case with this Administration.”

Aside from vetos, the White House has no control over what the authorizers and appropriators write into their bills. The Administration has no way to force the appropriators to meet the authorizers’ spending ceilings.

“Major, hopefully you figure out that leaves often suggest the presence of a nearby forest.”

And I hope you read a 7th grade civics textbook and stop being such a lazy writer.

Please…

“Yes that rider is still in effect – but my point is that it should have long since been superceded by an appropriations bill. Which is signed by the President by the way.”

The President can’t sign a bill that Congress hasn’t written or voted on, genius.

Are you really this dense?

Oy vey…

“And I did see a mock up of ten seats for orion several years ago. Can’t find the info though.”

You cannot find the info since it never, ever existed. From the beginning the crew requirement was for 6 people max. Well at least after ESAS and Griffin. Before ESAS and Griffin there was no mock up of “Orion” whatsoever. The name Orion came with Griffin.

Do I need more proof?
Spacex never said anything about a crew of 10, it is only 7. Again you show that you don’t know what you are talking about. Just stop posting unless you want to continue to make a fool of yourself

‘It’s a good thing you are here to tell me these things. If they can pack that many in Dragon then 10 can fit in Orion. It is just ridiculous to think of those poor souls crammed into dragon for a couple days chasing down the ISS. At least in Soyuz there is room to float around. In Dragon you will be in a state of misery that makes a redeye seem like a dream come true.”

Your prediction is simply that. There’s no factual basis for it. There’s so much wrong here – where to start. Well try spacecraft specs for starters. Dragon Crew is spec’d for 7 as is CST-100 and Orion is spec’d for 4-6. I think it was up to 6 for LEO and max 4 for BEO but won’t swear to that. Soyuz is spec’d for 3 and quite frankly, when you check out that sardine can, I don’t know how you squeeze 3 people into it.
For heavens sake, Virgil, check your facts before posting. You could even try Wikipedia with a simple search.

It’s a good thing you are here to tell me these things. If they can pack that many in Dragon then 10 can fit in Orion. It is just ridiculous to think of those poor souls crammed into dragon for a couple days chasing down the ISS. At least in Soyuz there is room to float around. In Dragon you will be in a state of misery that makes a redeye seem like a dream come true.

I, myself, do not see Sen. Nelson as a supporter of this WH. Only some one who thinks he needs a big SLS to be re-elected. Hang-on tight is all I have to say to him.

As often happens, some of our more opinionated colleagues interpret things the way they want to understand them and stare obsessively at leaves without realizing that there is a forest.

Case in point: RickBoozer who replied to my note about the Shelby rider that is keeping the Ares rocket alive (is this complicated enough?) I said: “The statute of limitations on that crummy rider has expired.” and he, not understanding what I meant, said “B.S. It’s still in effect, which [snip]”. To use simpler words – that rider would have been long in the grave had the Administration worked with Sen Nelson, etc to pass an appropriations bill. But we started, a year ago, with a budget that was DOA and the Administration never got behind the authorization bill which was later passed. That Shelby rider should have long ago been overcome by events.

MajorTom, who does not understand the role of the Senate, apparently, also misunderstood my comment. Can someone explain to him that Sen Nelson is certainly a supporter of the Administration – in fact appearing with the President on AF1, but still did not accept the budget submitted in Feb 2010 or Feb 2011. I certainly hope that my supporters can accept my suggestions far better than the Obama/Nelson relationship indicates that they work together. Perhaps the Major was confused by my using authorization and appropriation together – often, with more experienced Presidents, the two bills are very similar. Apparently that is not going to be the case with this Administration. Major, hopefully you figure out that leaves often suggest the presence of a nearby forest.

Yes that rider is still in effect – but my point is that it should have long since been superceded by an appropriations bill. Which is signed by the President by the way. The Congress has failed in it’s responsibility to fund the Federal government. The President has failed in his responsibility to work with the Congress to get some mutually agreeable bill signed.

Samms, you keep discredit yourself with these inane posts.

Orion will be seating 10 passengers a flight in ten years and taking over a hundred people a year into space. My prediction.