Comments on: Other, mixed reactions to the budget http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: Vladislaw http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340221 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:32:27 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340221 It doesn’t make you a liar but it does say you are not doing your DD.

How about, as a mental exercise, you start with the idea that there is no such thing as a heavy lift. All the tools you have in your tool kit are what we are already using on the ground.

How would you drive tax policy and spending policy, as it relates to space, to achieve your goals with the tools you have.

I believe you would find a spiral development that takes you farther out in space can be started today with the need for heavy launch. In the future, once we have incorporated cis lunar space into our economy, heavy lift will naturally evolve or not, but market forces would determine it.

]]> By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340177 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:04:02 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340177 An HLV is required and saying it is not does not make me liar.

No, you probably believe it. It does make you an ignorant fool, though.

]]> By: VirgilSamms http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340165 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:12:10 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340165 An HLV is required and saying it is not does not make me liar.

“Yes it does”

Does not.

]]> By: Byeman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340107 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:36:13 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340107 “NASA’s future, if not its survival through the Age of Austerity, rests with becoming a ‘wholly owned subsidiary’ of the DoD.’

nothing could be more far from the truth. In fact, it is so far away from the truth, it is a lie.

]]> By: Byeman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340106 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 03:34:38 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340106 “An HLV is required and saying it is not does not make me liar.”

Yes it does

]]> By: Beancounter from Downunder http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340102 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:55:32 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340102 This is your wishful thinking. No semblance to reality. When will you tire of it? Bit like ‘SpaceX has flown nobody’ adage but at least that has a factual basis.

]]> By: Regular Guy http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340098 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:24:38 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340098 Guys I would love nothing more than to see the star ship Enterprise zipping through the cosmos. But we’ve been asleep at the wheel for so long, 30 plus years, that the politicians have promised the moon while picking our pockets. I think Dennis Berube is spot on with “We probably will go to Mars someday, but will pay for it with a credit card!” The problem is where will the card come from? We have to spend our money wisely. Look at all the money spends on H2 Fusion research since 1953 $22.4 billion for a system that will probably never be more than a scientific curiosity. When the fusion experts are asked, when will we see a payoff for our investment, they say 50 years. Well that was said 50 years ago and probably will be said 50 years from now. I’m not saying that this is allot of money over time but why invest in something that may only be feasible in the lab or the center of a star. H3 has already been demonstrated feasible with a small scale working unit. We could direct future energy funding to return to the moon for Helium 3. If we could make space travel profitable, Helium3/energy, then the race would be on. If we cannot find a way to make space make money then we will go the route of ESA. They do some great science but they probably will never have a manned space program.

]]> By: DCSCA http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340080 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:47:03 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340080 @Scott Bass wrote @ February 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I come here everyday to see what progress is being made, but the years of drift is wearing thin….. It is hard to even be excited anymore…”

The Cold War ended 20 years ago this Christmas. And with it, the last valid piece of rationale for keeping the luxuriy of a civilian space agency. ‘Drift’ to you may be ‘vigilance’ under the veil of national security to the space operations of the DoD. NASA’s future, if not its survival through the Age of Austerity, rests with becoming a ‘wholly owned subsidiary’ of the DoD.

]]> By: VirgilSamms http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340076 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:30:16 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340076 “Also, an HLV is not required to do it and repeatedly saying it is does not make it true.”

An HLV is required and saying it is not does not make me liar.

]]> By: Scott Bass http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/02/15/other-mixed-reactions-to-the-budget/#comment-340074 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:51:51 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4440#comment-340074 I come here everyday to see what progress is being made, but the years of drift is wearing thin….. It is hard to even be excited anymore….. I can’t even pick out a point in the future where things start to look up for NASA. I am looking forward to the lunar prize stuff though, that might spark someones imagination.

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