Comments on: Congressional commentary on Discovery’s return http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342162 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:37:32 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342162 I provide GAO doc’s where NASA and GAO staet margin costs per shuttle flight of $40 back a couple decades and $80 back a couple years.

No, you provided what you claimed to be links to documents that you claimed said that. You provided no actual evidence that they do, other than your say so. Again, I’m not going to waste my time reading through a document to try to figure out how you misinterpreted it.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342153 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:42:54 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342153 > Coastal Ron wrote @ March 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

>> Kelly Starks wrote @ March 16th, 2011 at 11:06 am

>> “You dug through the GAO and NASA reports and fuond
>> numbers to directly refute the GAO and NASA quotes?”

> No, your misreading of them.

The question was find something suggesting NASA adn GAO had claimed margin costs per launch of a shuttle of $60M. I provide GAO doc’s where NASA and GAO staet margin costs per shuttle flight of $40 back a couple decades and $80 back a couple years.

Nothing to misread.

]]> By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342123 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 20:19:48 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342123 > Provide the quotes. ==

I did that above Rand.

No, you didn’t. You just said things like “GAO quotes costs of…” without actually providing actual quotes, in context, from the document. As I said, I don’t have time to go through the documents to identify all of the ways that you misinterpreted them.

]]> By: Coastal Ron http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342110 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:23:18 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342110 Kelly Starks wrote @ March 16th, 2011 at 11:06 am

“You dug through the GAO and NASA reports and fuond numbers to directly refute the GAO and NASA quotes?”

No, your misreading of them.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342091 Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:06:31 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342091 > Rand Simberg wrote @ March 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
> Provide the quotes. ==

I did that above Rand.

>==I dug through and found information that refutes his numbers,=

You dug through the GAO and NASA reports and fuond numbers to directly refute the GAO and NASA quotes?

Neet trick.

]]> By: Coastal Ron http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342058 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:55:25 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342058 Rand Simberg wrote @ March 15th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

“Provide the quotes. I don’t have time to dig to figure out how you might have misinterpreted them.”

I dug through and found information that refutes his numbers, but he chooses to ignore those things that prove him wrong.

]]> By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-342018 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 18:18:41 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-342018 Provide the quotes. I don’t have time to dig to figure out how you might have misinterpreted them.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-341990 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:01:17 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-341990 > Rand Simberg wrote @ March 14th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

> None of those ever claimed that the marginal cost of a Shuttle
> flight was only sixty millions.

NASA and GAO did. Check the links to gov papers I listed and quoted no that.

]]> By: Rand Simberg http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-341958 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:21:02 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-341958 None of those ever claimed that the marginal cost of a Shuttle flight was only sixty millions.

]]> By: Kelly Starks http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/10/congressional-commentary-on-discoverys-return/#comment-341956 Tue, 15 Mar 2011 01:56:59 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4511#comment-341956 > Coastal Ron wrote @ March 14th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

>>Kelly Starks wrote @ March 14th, 2011 at 10:35 am

>> “Sr systems engineer – on the presentational helicopter spec dev project”

> What’s a “presentational helicopter”?

Sorry, bad day.

Presidential Helicopter. I.E. the big green and white thing that drops into the south lawn.

If he knew what I knew -he’ld likely take the limo.
;)

==
>>“…given the limited cost of actual operations and servicing of shuttle”

> I’ll show you the costs again. =

You and Rand can argue it with the GAO, NASA, and historical records.

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