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	<title>Comments on: Lobbying for shuttles</title>
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	<description>Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway...</description>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Mar 2011 04:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#039;te quite literally &#039;space junk.&#039; Antiques. The Smithsonian, deserves one-- send Enterprise out to Edwards for display-- the desert climate is good for the old bird; KSC shoulf get another and JSC can display the third on the front lawn. Let display and maintainence costs come out of NASA&#039;s budget.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;te quite literally &#8216;space junk.&#8217; Antiques. The Smithsonian, deserves one&#8211; send Enterprise out to Edwards for display&#8211; the desert climate is good for the old bird; KSC shoulf get another and JSC can display the third on the front lawn. Let display and maintainence costs come out of NASA&#8217;s budget.</p>
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		<title>By: justsaying</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342591</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[justsaying]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Modeling the success of &quot;The Moving Wall,&quot; I wish that we could do the same with one of the orbiters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modeling the success of &#8220;The Moving Wall,&#8221; I wish that we could do the same with one of the orbiters.</p>
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		<title>By: T.J.</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being a NY&#039;er living out on LI I would love to see one wind up on the Intrepid but it would be criminal for KSC and JSC not to each get one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a NY&#8217;er living out on LI I would love to see one wind up on the Intrepid but it would be criminal for KSC and JSC not to each get one.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Mahoney</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Mahoney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This must be one of the most embarrassing displays of petty grasping gall to ever be associated with spaceflight, especially that of the NY &amp; IL senators &amp; congressmen. Truly nauseating, especially when set against the backdrop of how much our &#039;leaders&#039; (across multiple administrations and congresses) have squandered such a precious capability by never seriously committing to the vibrant, singular, sustained, coherent, and expanding exploration effort for which these vehicles were conceived to support. 

Sadly, no matter where they are bestowed, the orbitersâ€”like the unused Apollo hardware that preceded them into the realm of grand lawn ornaments and museum displaysâ€”will serve primarily as wistful monuments to the vast unrealized potential of their extensive capabilities and will only serve secondarily as artifacts which reflect the actual (and significant) accomplishments that the folks who brought them into being and operated them made possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This must be one of the most embarrassing displays of petty grasping gall to ever be associated with spaceflight, especially that of the NY &amp; IL senators &amp; congressmen. Truly nauseating, especially when set against the backdrop of how much our &#8216;leaders&#8217; (across multiple administrations and congresses) have squandered such a precious capability by never seriously committing to the vibrant, singular, sustained, coherent, and expanding exploration effort for which these vehicles were conceived to support. </p>
<p>Sadly, no matter where they are bestowed, the orbitersâ€”like the unused Apollo hardware that preceded them into the realm of grand lawn ornaments and museum displaysâ€”will serve primarily as wistful monuments to the vast unrealized potential of their extensive capabilities and will only serve secondarily as artifacts which reflect the actual (and significant) accomplishments that the folks who brought them into being and operated them made possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Cink</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Cink]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 22:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If one half of the time, money and political influence that was being spent on squabbling over the resting places for the representative corpses of our earlier space program, were instead spent on the FUTURE of our space program I think we might get somewhere other than LEO before 2040. But then, this IS a perfect example of an empire/civilization in decline. But hey, just keep printing those welfare checks and fake dollars and everything will be JUST FINE... RIP USA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one half of the time, money and political influence that was being spent on squabbling over the resting places for the representative corpses of our earlier space program, were instead spent on the FUTURE of our space program I think we might get somewhere other than LEO before 2040. But then, this IS a perfect example of an empire/civilization in decline. But hey, just keep printing those welfare checks and fake dollars and everything will be JUST FINE&#8230; RIP USA.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342543</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In less than a month, on April 12, NASA administrator Charles Bolden is scheduled to announce which sites will receive the agencyâ€™s three shuttle orbitersâ€”Atlantis, Discovery, and Endeavourâ€”when the fleet is retired later this year.&quot;

A prime example of why Bolden is most likely headed for retirement this autumn - or just may be teeing himself up to be fired. This kind of chore is best delegated to underlings. Weekend work. Garage sale matters. A NASA administrator of any gravitas and influence would have more pressing matters related to the present and future of the agency at a crossroads in its existence than the disposition of used hardware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In less than a month, on April 12, NASA administrator Charles Bolden is scheduled to announce which sites will receive the agencyâ€™s three shuttle orbitersâ€”Atlantis, Discovery, and Endeavourâ€”when the fleet is retired later this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>A prime example of why Bolden is most likely headed for retirement this autumn &#8211; or just may be teeing himself up to be fired. This kind of chore is best delegated to underlings. Weekend work. Garage sale matters. A NASA administrator of any gravitas and influence would have more pressing matters related to the present and future of the agency at a crossroads in its existence than the disposition of used hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those unfamiliar with the museum at Edwards AFB, here&#039;s the link:

http://www.afftcmuseum.org/

For Jules Davis, who claims (1) there isn&#039;t one but then writes (2) it&#039;s always closed, this is from their web site:

&lt;i&gt;The Museum is open 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday. The Museum is closed on all Federal Holidays.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s run by volunteers, as is our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.afspacemuseum.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Air Force Space &amp; Missile Museum&lt;/a&gt; at Cape Canaveral.  Both have free admission.  Compare that to the KSC Visitor Complex, which is open nearly every day of the year but costs $42 just to enter.  You get what you pay for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those unfamiliar with the museum at Edwards AFB, here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.afftcmuseum.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.afftcmuseum.org/</a></p>
<p>For Jules Davis, who claims (1) there isn&#8217;t one but then writes (2) it&#8217;s always closed, this is from their web site:</p>
<p><i>The Museum is open 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Tuesday through Saturday. The Museum is closed on all Federal Holidays.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s run by volunteers, as is our <a href="http://www.afspacemuseum.org" rel="nofollow">Air Force Space &amp; Missile Museum</a> at Cape Canaveral.  Both have free admission.  Compare that to the KSC Visitor Complex, which is open nearly every day of the year but costs $42 just to enter.  You get what you pay for.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Bridwell</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nelson Bridwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also like the idea of sending Enterprise to Dryden/Edwards, with an Atlas and Delta going to WPAFB...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also like the idea of sending Enterprise to Dryden/Edwards, with an Atlas and Delta going to WPAFB&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hensley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Hensley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know I&#039;m biased because I&#039;m from Houston, but it just seems crazy to me if one of the orbiters doesn&#039;t end up at JSC. No other place on earth has a more significant and sustained connection to the shuttle program than KSC and JSC. So my vote would be: Smithsonian, KSC and JSC. Enterprise could go to one of the many worthy museums that have less connection to the program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m biased because I&#8217;m from Houston, but it just seems crazy to me if one of the orbiters doesn&#8217;t end up at JSC. No other place on earth has a more significant and sustained connection to the shuttle program than KSC and JSC. So my vote would be: Smithsonian, KSC and JSC. Enterprise could go to one of the many worthy museums that have less connection to the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Ellegood</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/03/24/lobbying-for-shuttles/#comment-342505</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Ellegood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone should start a betting pool. My prediction: Discovery to Smithsonian; Endeavour to KSC; Atlantis to Ohio; Enterprise to Chicago or New York.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone should start a betting pool. My prediction: Discovery to Smithsonian; Endeavour to KSC; Atlantis to Ohio; Enterprise to Chicago or New York.</p>
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