<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s the future of US-China cooperation in space?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space</link>
	<description>Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway...</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000</lastBuildDate>
		<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
		<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Byeman</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-346134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 09:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-346134</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But if you are cranking that no DoD missile/rocket/launch system has orbited a DoD crew on a DoD spacecraft and returned&quot;

Correct, the DOD has never performed a cradle to grave manned mission.  It has always relied on NASA.  Any DOD manned program was eventually put (and still is) under the protective wing of NASA HSF.  And in the age of austerity, that is where it will remain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But if you are cranking that no DoD missile/rocket/launch system has orbited a DoD crew on a DoD spacecraft and returned&#8221;</p>
<p>Correct, the DOD has never performed a cradle to grave manned mission.  It has always relied on NASA.  Any DOD manned program was eventually put (and still is) under the protective wing of NASA HSF.  And in the age of austerity, that is where it will remain.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Byeman</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-346133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Byeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 09:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-346133</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;think youâ€™ll find the Gemini spacecraft configured for MOL operations was successfully tested, launched and recovered.&quot;

Putting a hatch in the heatshield with no other mods does not qualify as &quot;configured for MOL operations&quot;

Learn something about spaceflight history for once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;think youâ€™ll find the Gemini spacecraft configured for MOL operations was successfully tested, launched and recovered.&#8221;</p>
<p>Putting a hatch in the heatshield with no other mods does not qualify as &#8220;configured for MOL operations&#8221;</p>
<p>Learn something about spaceflight history for once.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-346055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 16:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-346055</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[@  sftommy wrote @ May 12th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

No, no. Wrong. 

&quot;China is a paranoid superpower not interested in war per se, but will seize every advantage up to that point.&quot;

Do you know of any country that would not do any of what you say? Come on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@  sftommy wrote @ May 12th, 2011 at 8:05 pm</p>
<p>No, no. Wrong. </p>
<p>&#8220;China is a paranoid superpower not interested in war per se, but will seize every advantage up to that point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you know of any country that would not do any of what you say? Come on.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sftommy</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-346022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sftommy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 00:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-346022</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[vulture4 wrote @ May 11th, 2011 at 7:50 am 
&quot;...I would have to consider both Mr. Griffin and Representative Wolf to be both shortsighted and narrow minded. ...&quot;


DoD&#039;s white paper on China points out they understand the need to deny the US access to it&#039;s satellites in any conflict as they are key to almost all US military action world wide.  China&#039;s deliberate collision of two satellites in 2009 was a direct warning to the US that they could take out US military capability world wide very inexpensively.  China is a paranoid superpower not interested in war per se, but will seize every advantage up to that point.

Neither Wolf nor Griffin are narrow minded on this issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vulture4 wrote @ May 11th, 2011 at 7:50 am<br />
&#8220;&#8230;I would have to consider both Mr. Griffin and Representative Wolf to be both shortsighted and narrow minded. &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>DoD&#8217;s white paper on China points out they understand the need to deny the US access to it&#8217;s satellites in any conflict as they are key to almost all US military action world wide.  China&#8217;s deliberate collision of two satellites in 2009 was a direct warning to the US that they could take out US military capability world wide very inexpensively.  China is a paranoid superpower not interested in war per se, but will seize every advantage up to that point.</p>
<p>Neither Wolf nor Griffin are narrow minded on this issue.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-345941</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 11:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-345941</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[China has already launched several seriies of recon satellites, there&#039;s no particular reason to believe they would consider a manned vehicle to be needed for simply collecting photos. And they are certainly not interested in a moon race; if they lost they would look incompetent. If they won they would irritate their biggest customer.
So why is China in space? First, it provides a focus for national pride. China still remembers its cultural sense of inferiority and shame during the more than a century it was dominated by foreigners, first the European powers, then the Japanese. Human spaceflight shows Chinese they are a country of the first rank. Second, spaceflight showcases China&#039;s industrial and commercial space capabilities for foreign customers. These goals just require an occasional flight to remind everyone they can do it.  If China were in a race they would certainly be launching more than one manned flight a year. 

China&#039;s goal is not world hegemony but rather to &quot;join the club&quot; of world leaders that can ensure the global stability and growth its ecomony depends on. For that reason China would like to be invited to join the ISS program. Although purely symbolic, it would position China as one of a group of world leaders working in concert. From the US point of view, it would help diffuse tensions, not only between China and the US, but between China and Japan, China and India, China and Russia. 

So I was astonished when Mike Griffin, participating in a conference in China, was invited to tour their launch facilities. According to press reports he asked if he would be allowed to see everything at the site, without restriction. When his hosts understandably demurred, he flatly refused the invitation, saying he had seen more than enough launch pads. For a senior US official to insult his hosts so flagrantly is an inexplicable as the torrent of attacks that have dogged his successor whenever he attempts to improve relations with a foreign power. I would have to consider both Mr. Griffin and Representative Wolf to be both shortsighted and narrow minded.  

The world is far more likely to end in nuclear confrontation than in asteroidal impact. Paradoxically, even for the former NASA can help reduce the risk. It wants only the substitution of reason for xenophobia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China has already launched several seriies of recon satellites, there&#8217;s no particular reason to believe they would consider a manned vehicle to be needed for simply collecting photos. And they are certainly not interested in a moon race; if they lost they would look incompetent. If they won they would irritate their biggest customer.<br />
So why is China in space? First, it provides a focus for national pride. China still remembers its cultural sense of inferiority and shame during the more than a century it was dominated by foreigners, first the European powers, then the Japanese. Human spaceflight shows Chinese they are a country of the first rank. Second, spaceflight showcases China&#8217;s industrial and commercial space capabilities for foreign customers. These goals just require an occasional flight to remind everyone they can do it.  If China were in a race they would certainly be launching more than one manned flight a year. </p>
<p>China&#8217;s goal is not world hegemony but rather to &#8220;join the club&#8221; of world leaders that can ensure the global stability and growth its ecomony depends on. For that reason China would like to be invited to join the ISS program. Although purely symbolic, it would position China as one of a group of world leaders working in concert. From the US point of view, it would help diffuse tensions, not only between China and the US, but between China and Japan, China and India, China and Russia. </p>
<p>So I was astonished when Mike Griffin, participating in a conference in China, was invited to tour their launch facilities. According to press reports he asked if he would be allowed to see everything at the site, without restriction. When his hosts understandably demurred, he flatly refused the invitation, saying he had seen more than enough launch pads. For a senior US official to insult his hosts so flagrantly is an inexplicable as the torrent of attacks that have dogged his successor whenever he attempts to improve relations with a foreign power. I would have to consider both Mr. Griffin and Representative Wolf to be both shortsighted and narrow minded.  </p>
<p>The world is far more likely to end in nuclear confrontation than in asteroidal impact. Paradoxically, even for the former NASA can help reduce the risk. It wants only the substitution of reason for xenophobia.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-345896</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 16:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-345896</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The ISS is not even being used to take pictures of the Earth for scientific purposes, which was one of its original missions. Why can&#039;t we at least get a few basic imaging systems mounted on the truss so new earth observation and environmental monitoring technology could be developed in a relatively low-cost environment?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ISS is not even being used to take pictures of the Earth for scientific purposes, which was one of its original missions. Why can&#8217;t we at least get a few basic imaging systems mounted on the truss so new earth observation and environmental monitoring technology could be developed in a relatively low-cost environment?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-345826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 16:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-345826</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[@  Das Boese wrote @ May 9th, 2011 at 10:02 am

&quot;Youâ€™re making a positive claim without any evidence to back it up. &quot;

It feels difficult at times to deal with those who live in a different side of the reality... It leads to circle arguments with no end. I am done with Frank until he can back up any of his argument(s). Any.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@  Das Boese wrote @ May 9th, 2011 at 10:02 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Youâ€™re making a positive claim without any evidence to back it up. &#8221;</p>
<p>It feels difficult at times to deal with those who live in a different side of the reality&#8230; It leads to circle arguments with no end. I am done with Frank until he can back up any of his argument(s). Any.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Das Boese</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-345823</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Das Boese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 14:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-345823</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Frank Glover wrote @ May 9th, 2011 at 7:01 am 

&quot;Therefore, your conclusions are at least as speculative as mine.&quot;
No they&#039;re not.

You&#039;re making a positive claim without any evidence to back it up. The default position is to dismiss it until supporting evidence is presented.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Glover wrote @ May 9th, 2011 at 7:01 am </p>
<p>&#8220;Therefore, your conclusions are at least as speculative as mine.&#8221;<br />
No they&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making a positive claim without any evidence to back it up. The default position is to dismiss it until supporting evidence is presented.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-345821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 13:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-345821</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[@  Frank Glover wrote @ May 9th, 2011 at 7:01 am

I think I&#039;ll leave it at that but I assume you have proof that the ISS is used for espionage?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@  Frank Glover wrote @ May 9th, 2011 at 7:01 am</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll leave it at that but I assume you have proof that the ISS is used for espionage?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Frank Glover</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/05/05/whats-the-future-of-us-china-cooperation-in-space/#comment-345815</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Glover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2011 11:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4675#comment-345815</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You donâ€™t know about China and its intention but you surmise they will build a space station to be used as an espionage platform.&quot;

My current opinion is that it will be *one* of its functions, yes. Presumably some basic science and other kinds of engineering development will be among the other functions. Those, BTW, are some of the reasons anyone builds *any* space station.

&quot;And they would answer me becauseâ€¦&quot;

It&#039;s not at all likely that they would. That&#039;s my point. You&#039;re quite welcome to reject my opinion, but you may not get a complete, if any, answer from the actual source, either. Therefore, your conclusions are at least as speculative as mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You donâ€™t know about China and its intention but you surmise they will build a space station to be used as an espionage platform.&#8221;</p>
<p>My current opinion is that it will be *one* of its functions, yes. Presumably some basic science and other kinds of engineering development will be among the other functions. Those, BTW, are some of the reasons anyone builds *any* space station.</p>
<p>&#8220;And they would answer me becauseâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not at all likely that they would. That&#8217;s my point. You&#8217;re quite welcome to reject my opinion, but you may not get a complete, if any, answer from the actual source, either. Therefore, your conclusions are at least as speculative as mine.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
