<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: A &#8220;pretty bleak picture&#8221; for a weather satellite program</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program</link>
	<description>Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway...</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000</lastBuildDate>
		<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
		<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rhyolite</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347542</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhyolite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347542</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[NPOESS looks like a classic requirements death spiral that afflicts most &quot;joint&quot; programs (think JSF).  It came out of squashing together a civil and military satellite program that had somewhat overlapping requirements.  That looks efficient on paper but the conjoined program has more requirements than any of the predecessor programs.  

Additional requirements don&#039;t add linearly.  They open the program to unexpected interactions between requirements, for example thermal and EMI incompatibilities between instruments.  It also adds schedule risk - delays on one sensor holds back the launch of every other sensor.  

As I understand the revised policy, the NPOESS partnership is being resolved and civil and defense parts are being separated again, which would be a belated step in the right direction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPOESS looks like a classic requirements death spiral that afflicts most &#8220;joint&#8221; programs (think JSF).  It came out of squashing together a civil and military satellite program that had somewhat overlapping requirements.  That looks efficient on paper but the conjoined program has more requirements than any of the predecessor programs.  </p>
<p>Additional requirements don&#8217;t add linearly.  They open the program to unexpected interactions between requirements, for example thermal and EMI incompatibilities between instruments.  It also adds schedule risk &#8211; delays on one sensor holds back the launch of every other sensor.  </p>
<p>As I understand the revised policy, the NPOESS partnership is being resolved and civil and defense parts are being separated again, which would be a belated step in the right direction.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jeff Foust</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347540</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Foust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347540</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[A reminder that Ms. Palin&#039;s comments about Mr. Revere are off topic for this post. Please limit your discussion to topics related to this post. Thank you for your cooperation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reminder that Ms. Palin&#8217;s comments about Mr. Revere are off topic for this post. Please limit your discussion to topics related to this post. Thank you for your cooperation.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: GuessWho</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GuessWho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347535</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Oler - &quot;People like you think that if you say it long enough it takes on truth. Or if you can redo Wiki then Paul Revere did really ride to warn the British.

We have as a nation ha dpeople like you around for a long time, and once again you folks are getting some time in the spotlight; but it will only be when we dump you that at some point we will grow as a nation again. That day is coming. RGO&quot;

As usual, you don&#039;t really know what you are talking about:

http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere

While this reference is off-topic in and of itself, it demonstrates your usual lack of knowledge and typical slander of others that hold differing opinions, accusations that you are never able to back up with facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oler &#8211; &#8220;People like you think that if you say it long enough it takes on truth. Or if you can redo Wiki then Paul Revere did really ride to warn the British.</p>
<p>We have as a nation ha dpeople like you around for a long time, and once again you folks are getting some time in the spotlight; but it will only be when we dump you that at some point we will grow as a nation again. That day is coming. RGO&#8221;</p>
<p>As usual, you don&#8217;t really know what you are talking about:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/137011636/how-accurate-were-palins-comments-on-paul-revere</a></p>
<p>While this reference is off-topic in and of itself, it demonstrates your usual lack of knowledge and typical slander of others that hold differing opinions, accusations that you are never able to back up with facts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347533</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[amightywind wrote @ June 11th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

&quot;An enlightened self interest is the cornerstone of the American economy. &quot;

I dont much like that statement and dont think it is historically accurate except for narrow slices of the economy; but even if it were accurate then you have failed the test you set out.

Hurricanes can be traced by GEO birds, but their sensors are not fine enough to develop the data on &quot;where&quot; they will be going.  IE the GEO birds can find where they are but only the data from airplanes and Polar birds can find the data that allows some notion of where they are going to be pushed with greater and greater accuracy.

That you do not know this, that you assume that because &quot;you&quot; know something means you know more then the folks who are actual experts on it...fails the test of &quot;enlightenment&quot; that you put out.  

I dont know if man made or affected climate change is a reality; but I do keep an open mind and am at least willing to collect data to find out.  People like you, when I was a child kept arguing that all the &quot;pollution controls on cars&quot; were really meaningless.  But I recall when we did not have them and had leaded gas and the skies in Houston were well &quot;less&quot; almost on a daily basis; and while we still get the occasionally inversion that makes things really bad; not so much since we did move to affect the changes we as humans were having on the environment

It goes farther then the environment.  Whittington whose sole knowledge of the military comes from his fantasy shows was one of the guys who thought we could take and hold Iraq with 50,000 people.  He thought that because he had been told to think that by the fools who Rumsfeld hired, who like him only played at knowing about the military.

It doesnt take to much to read your &quot;enlightened&quot; post on space policy to figure out that you are sort of in the &quot;make it up as you go&quot; theory as well.  I still laugh at the notions of the &quot;Falcon 9 upper stage going into the Atlantic&quot;.  even while the boost phase was underway.

People like you think that if you say it long enough it takes on truth.  Or if you can redo Wiki then Paul Revere did really ride to warn the British.  

We have as a nation ha dpeople like you around for a long time, and once again you folks are getting some time in the spotlight; but it will only be when we dump you that at some point we will grow as a nation again.  That day is coming.  RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amightywind wrote @ June 11th, 2011 at 6:42 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;An enlightened self interest is the cornerstone of the American economy. &#8221;</p>
<p>I dont much like that statement and dont think it is historically accurate except for narrow slices of the economy; but even if it were accurate then you have failed the test you set out.</p>
<p>Hurricanes can be traced by GEO birds, but their sensors are not fine enough to develop the data on &#8220;where&#8221; they will be going.  IE the GEO birds can find where they are but only the data from airplanes and Polar birds can find the data that allows some notion of where they are going to be pushed with greater and greater accuracy.</p>
<p>That you do not know this, that you assume that because &#8220;you&#8221; know something means you know more then the folks who are actual experts on it&#8230;fails the test of &#8220;enlightenment&#8221; that you put out.  </p>
<p>I dont know if man made or affected climate change is a reality; but I do keep an open mind and am at least willing to collect data to find out.  People like you, when I was a child kept arguing that all the &#8220;pollution controls on cars&#8221; were really meaningless.  But I recall when we did not have them and had leaded gas and the skies in Houston were well &#8220;less&#8221; almost on a daily basis; and while we still get the occasionally inversion that makes things really bad; not so much since we did move to affect the changes we as humans were having on the environment</p>
<p>It goes farther then the environment.  Whittington whose sole knowledge of the military comes from his fantasy shows was one of the guys who thought we could take and hold Iraq with 50,000 people.  He thought that because he had been told to think that by the fools who Rumsfeld hired, who like him only played at knowing about the military.</p>
<p>It doesnt take to much to read your &#8220;enlightened&#8221; post on space policy to figure out that you are sort of in the &#8220;make it up as you go&#8221; theory as well.  I still laugh at the notions of the &#8220;Falcon 9 upper stage going into the Atlantic&#8221;.  even while the boost phase was underway.</p>
<p>People like you think that if you say it long enough it takes on truth.  Or if you can redo Wiki then Paul Revere did really ride to warn the British.  </p>
<p>We have as a nation ha dpeople like you around for a long time, and once again you folks are getting some time in the spotlight; but it will only be when we dump you that at some point we will grow as a nation again.  That day is coming.  RGO</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 14:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347532</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sadly it looks like NASA has recently misallocated funds to study ocean salinity while NOAA goes begging.&quot;

As usual, windy makes another idiotic statement.  NOAA gets Aquarius data and has people on the science team.  NOAA doesn&#039;t deal with R&amp;D, they only use instruments that are proven.  NASA, as part of its charter, performs the R&amp;D of new remote sensing instruments.  

NOAA isn&#039;t doing any begging, the funds are rightfully allocate.  What is misallocated is windy&#039;s devotion to wrongly interpret NASA&#039;s purpose and charter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sadly it looks like NASA has recently misallocated funds to study ocean salinity while NOAA goes begging.&#8221;</p>
<p>As usual, windy makes another idiotic statement.  NOAA gets Aquarius data and has people on the science team.  NOAA doesn&#8217;t deal with R&amp;D, they only use instruments that are proven.  NASA, as part of its charter, performs the R&amp;D of new remote sensing instruments.  </p>
<p>NOAA isn&#8217;t doing any begging, the funds are rightfully allocate.  What is misallocated is windy&#8217;s devotion to wrongly interpret NASA&#8217;s purpose and charter.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: NASA Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347524</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NASA Fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347524</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[GOPer&#039;s, as a generalization, with respect to Earth Science,  are &#039;head in the sander&#039;s&quot;     NASA does a lot of science from space; NOAA does a lot of Earth Observing from space; While other galaxies and planets and blackholes, and such are interesting and even exciting, there is only one planet whose health I care about, and that&#039;s the one I live on, my kids live on, and that&#039;s good ole Earth.

Not sure why GOPer&#039;s are such anti Earth Science, Earth Observation. Stupid of them to let whatever fears they have about what we&#039;d learn from a robust Earth Science program get in the way of funding such valuable endeavors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOPer&#8217;s, as a generalization, with respect to Earth Science,  are &#8216;head in the sander&#8217;s&#8221;     NASA does a lot of science from space; NOAA does a lot of Earth Observing from space; While other galaxies and planets and blackholes, and such are interesting and even exciting, there is only one planet whose health I care about, and that&#8217;s the one I live on, my kids live on, and that&#8217;s good ole Earth.</p>
<p>Not sure why GOPer&#8217;s are such anti Earth Science, Earth Observation. Stupid of them to let whatever fears they have about what we&#8217;d learn from a robust Earth Science program get in the way of funding such valuable endeavors.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: amightywind</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amightywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347523</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;You do know weather is important to industry like the oil companies in the gulf?&lt;/cite&gt;

Hurricanes are accurately tracked from high orbit. Sadly it looks like NASA has recently misallocated funds to study &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spaceflightnow.com/delta/d354/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ocean salinity&lt;/a&gt; while NOAA goes begging.

&lt;cite&gt;The problem with the GOP right wing is that beyond an individual perspective most of the individual â€œkeen mindsâ€ dont understand or really care to understand much. &lt;/cite&gt;

An enlightened self interest is the cornerstone of the American economy. We care about the &#039;world at large&#039; to the extent it serves this interest. Your&#039;s is the usual spiel from the left. The GOP is somehow dumb for rejecting the global warming con. I do know we are in the third year of their &#039;smart&#039; policies and the nation is in a horrible malaise. The emperor has no clothes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>You do know weather is important to industry like the oil companies in the gulf?</cite></p>
<p>Hurricanes are accurately tracked from high orbit. Sadly it looks like NASA has recently misallocated funds to study <a href="http://www.spaceflightnow.com/delta/d354/" rel="nofollow">ocean salinity</a> while NOAA goes begging.</p>
<p><cite>The problem with the GOP right wing is that beyond an individual perspective most of the individual â€œkeen mindsâ€ dont understand or really care to understand much. </cite></p>
<p>An enlightened self interest is the cornerstone of the American economy. We care about the &#8216;world at large&#8217; to the extent it serves this interest. Your&#8217;s is the usual spiel from the left. The GOP is somehow dumb for rejecting the global warming con. I do know we are in the third year of their &#8216;smart&#8217; policies and the nation is in a horrible malaise. The emperor has no clothes.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tu8ca</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tu8ca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347517</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[@Michael Kent
&lt;i&gt;&quot;And then amightywind comes out against weather forecasting. Oh brother!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;ve been wondering about amighty - does he actually believe what he says? I&#039;m starting to think he might be performance art.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Kent<br />
<i>&#8220;And then amightywind comes out against weather forecasting. Oh brother!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering about amighty &#8211; does he actually believe what he says? I&#8217;m starting to think he might be performance art.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 20:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347513</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This kind of programming deserves funding. Weather satellite and Earth sciences research were at the forefront of the space program from its beginning. Ignoring the sciences and distorting data is very GOP. Witness Bill O&#039;Reilly- &#039;tide goes in; tide goes out. God&#039;s will.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of programming deserves funding. Weather satellite and Earth sciences research were at the forefront of the space program from its beginning. Ignoring the sciences and distorting data is very GOP. Witness Bill O&#8217;Reilly- &#8216;tide goes in; tide goes out. God&#8217;s will.&#8217;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/10/a-pretty-bleak-picture-for-a-weather-satellite-program/#comment-347506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=4771#comment-347506</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[amightywind wrote @ June 10th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

&quot;As for the dire consequences of losing polar satellite observations, I can tolerate 2 feet of snow even if only 1 foot is forecast.&quot;

yes another keen mind of the right wing making another thoughtful statement.

The problem with the GOP right wing is that beyond an individual perspective most of the individual &quot;keen minds&quot; dont understand or really care to understand much.  

The world is bigger then you Wind, (or me or any other individual) and the sum total of the nations activities is larger then any individual.  You might not care about the difference but processes and things that you or others do care about are impacted by the difference and the lack of precise (or as precise as possible) WX information.  

If one foot is forecast then the folks at the airport snow removal teams act one way.  If it is two feet they act another...that is just one example.

You folks, the right wing of the GOP are doing a lot of harm to the Country that you folks claim to be the super patriots of.  RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amightywind wrote @ June 10th, 2011 at 4:12 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;As for the dire consequences of losing polar satellite observations, I can tolerate 2 feet of snow even if only 1 foot is forecast.&#8221;</p>
<p>yes another keen mind of the right wing making another thoughtful statement.</p>
<p>The problem with the GOP right wing is that beyond an individual perspective most of the individual &#8220;keen minds&#8221; dont understand or really care to understand much.  </p>
<p>The world is bigger then you Wind, (or me or any other individual) and the sum total of the nations activities is larger then any individual.  You might not care about the difference but processes and things that you or others do care about are impacted by the difference and the lack of precise (or as precise as possible) WX information.  </p>
<p>If one foot is forecast then the folks at the airport snow removal teams act one way.  If it is two feet they act another&#8230;that is just one example.</p>
<p>You folks, the right wing of the GOP are doing a lot of harm to the Country that you folks claim to be the super patriots of.  RGO</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
