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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348365</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA wrote @ June 27th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;The only person who mentioned relying on â€˜one news sourceâ€™â€“ is you.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Well gee, do I get brownie points for being the first to point it out?  You only quote one news source, whose information is way behind what SpaceX has announced publicly, so it&#039;s pretty obvious you lack a wide perspective.

Those of us that actually follow space related activity use a multitude of news sources, and don&#039;t limit ourselves to one point of view.

It&#039;s OK if you don&#039;t get it - I know this stuff is hard for you.  You can go back to watching &quot;Destination Moon&quot; and reading your Apollo history books...  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA wrote @ June 27th, 2011 at 5:50 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>The only person who mentioned relying on â€˜one news sourceâ€™â€“ is you.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Well gee, do I get brownie points for being the first to point it out?  You only quote one news source, whose information is way behind what SpaceX has announced publicly, so it&#8217;s pretty obvious you lack a wide perspective.</p>
<p>Those of us that actually follow space related activity use a multitude of news sources, and don&#8217;t limit ourselves to one point of view.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s OK if you don&#8217;t get it &#8211; I know this stuff is hard for you.  You can go back to watching &#8220;Destination Moon&#8221; and reading your Apollo history books&#8230;  <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348358</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Robert G. Oler wrote @ June 21st, 2011 at 9:17 am 

&quot;Over the same amount of time for about 14 billion the USN got the research done on the new CVN class, and built one. 
One?? On top o what- 14 or 15-- and that doesn&#039;t inclusde annual operating costs of $5-$7 billion per carrier.

@Rand Shillberg wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm 
If you&#039;re going to play in the media you best start learning something about it. Don&#039;t talk to reporters on the record if you don&#039;t expect them to report what you say. SpaceX execs granted NBC News backgrounders and the facts speak for themselves- as does the fact that you can&#039;t spin them in your favor. &quot;Of course, we canâ€™t discount the notion that you didnâ€™t even understand the storyâ€¦&quot;


@Coastal Ron wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm 
The only person who mentioned relying on &#039;one news source&#039;-- is you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert G. Oler wrote @ June 21st, 2011 at 9:17 am </p>
<p>&#8220;Over the same amount of time for about 14 billion the USN got the research done on the new CVN class, and built one.<br />
One?? On top o what- 14 or 15&#8211; and that doesn&#8217;t inclusde annual operating costs of $5-$7 billion per carrier.</p>
<p>@Rand Shillberg wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm<br />
If you&#8217;re going to play in the media you best start learning something about it. Don&#8217;t talk to reporters on the record if you don&#8217;t expect them to report what you say. SpaceX execs granted NBC News backgrounders and the facts speak for themselves- as does the fact that you can&#8217;t spin them in your favor. &#8220;Of course, we canâ€™t discount the notion that you didnâ€™t even understand the storyâ€¦&#8221;</p>
<p>@Coastal Ron wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm<br />
The only person who mentioned relying on &#8216;one news source&#8217;&#8211; is you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Apparently the fine folks at SpaceX, who granted the interview backgrounder for NBC in the first place.&lt;/em&gt;

And therefore, you think that NBC told SpaceX&#039;s story, like a stenographer?

Wow.  You&#039;re even more naive than I thought.

Of course, we can&#039;t discount the notion that you didn&#039;t even understand the story...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Apparently the fine folks at SpaceX, who granted the interview backgrounder for NBC in the first place.</em></p>
<p>And therefore, you think that NBC told SpaceX&#8217;s story, like a stenographer?</p>
<p>Wow.  You&#8217;re even more naive than I thought.</p>
<p>Of course, we can&#8217;t discount the notion that you didn&#8217;t even understand the story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 01:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Apparently the fine folks at SpaceX, who granted the interview backgrounder for NBC in the first place. Try to keep up.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

The big question is why you rely on only one news source, and only one news article?

Musk has already stated the same information publicly, many times, over a fairly long period of time.  Why has it taken you so long to &quot;discover&quot; that SpaceX plans to use their CRS flights to prove out Falcon 9 and Dragon before flying crew?

Why are you so far behind on news for a company that you hate so much?  Weird.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 6:42 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Apparently the fine folks at SpaceX, who granted the interview backgrounder for NBC in the first place. Try to keep up.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>The big question is why you rely on only one news source, and only one news article?</p>
<p>Musk has already stated the same information publicly, many times, over a fairly long period of time.  Why has it taken you so long to &#8220;discover&#8221; that SpaceX plans to use their CRS flights to prove out Falcon 9 and Dragon before flying crew?</p>
<p>Why are you so far behind on news for a company that you hate so much?  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348160</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rand Simberg wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am 
&quot;a reminder that the only thing SpaceX has launched and orbited and returned safely is that wheel of cheeseâ€“ and per NBC News, it will be for some time to comeâ€“ 4 to 5 years. What kind of idiot would imagine that NBC News has any idea whatâ€™s going on?&quot;  

Apparently the fine folks at SpaceX,  who granted the interview backgrounder for NBC in the first place. Try to keep up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rand Simberg wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 am<br />
&#8220;a reminder that the only thing SpaceX has launched and orbited and returned safely is that wheel of cheeseâ€“ and per NBC News, it will be for some time to comeâ€“ 4 to 5 years. What kind of idiot would imagine that NBC News has any idea whatâ€™s going on?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Apparently the fine folks at SpaceX,  who granted the interview backgrounder for NBC in the first place. Try to keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Another press release [regarding SpaceX Falcon Heavy].&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

As usual, you have trouble understanding the meaning of what people say.

A good example of a press release is the ATK/Astrium Liberty launcher, which has gone nowhere since it was &quot;announced&quot;.

In comparison, SpaceX has already flight tested (twice) the central core of their Falcon Heavy.

SpaceX also already has their Falcon Heavy launch pad at Vandenberg AFB approved for construction.  This also demonstrates how they plan years in advance, since getting the construction approvals takes years of work (environmental reports take time).

And SpaceX is already in negotiations with potential customers.

No, SpaceX wasn&#039;t telling the world what they would LIKE to do, they were telling the world what they ARE doing.  Big difference.

Too bad you don&#039;t have the ability to understand the difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA wrote @ June 23rd, 2011 at 2:47 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Another press release [regarding SpaceX Falcon Heavy].</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>As usual, you have trouble understanding the meaning of what people say.</p>
<p>A good example of a press release is the ATK/Astrium Liberty launcher, which has gone nowhere since it was &#8220;announced&#8221;.</p>
<p>In comparison, SpaceX has already flight tested (twice) the central core of their Falcon Heavy.</p>
<p>SpaceX also already has their Falcon Heavy launch pad at Vandenberg AFB approved for construction.  This also demonstrates how they plan years in advance, since getting the construction approvals takes years of work (environmental reports take time).</p>
<p>And SpaceX is already in negotiations with potential customers.</p>
<p>No, SpaceX wasn&#8217;t telling the world what they would LIKE to do, they were telling the world what they ARE doing.  Big difference.</p>
<p>Too bad you don&#8217;t have the ability to understand the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Another press release. In fact, it HAS deliver a wheel of cheese, the hard way.&quot;

You have to launch something before you can launch someone.

Tick-tock, tick-tock. Put something, anything, up, or shut-up.

Sigh...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Another press release. In fact, it HAS deliver a wheel of cheese, the hard way.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to launch something before you can launch someone.</p>
<p>Tick-tock, tick-tock. Put something, anything, up, or shut-up.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Major Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&#039;@Major Tom. â€œThe Mercury Program cost $2.9 billion in todayâ€™s dollars.&#039;

All these quoted numbers do not hold up under scientific scrutiny.&quot;

Your post is gibberish, almost entirely deals with Shuttle figures I never quoted, claims &quot;NASAâ€™s own inflation rate tables&quot; without providing any reference or link to them, and despite all that, only produces a $0.3 billion difference from my quoted figure for the Mercury Program.

Pointless...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8216;@Major Tom. â€œThe Mercury Program cost $2.9 billion in todayâ€™s dollars.&#8217;</p>
<p>All these quoted numbers do not hold up under scientific scrutiny.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your post is gibberish, almost entirely deals with Shuttle figures I never quoted, claims &#8220;NASAâ€™s own inflation rate tables&#8221; without providing any reference or link to them, and despite all that, only produces a $0.3 billion difference from my quoted figure for the Mercury Program.</p>
<p>Pointless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348146</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;It looks presently like the SLS plans NASA is going to bring before Congress here in the near future, still calls for the use of those hot 5 seg. SRBs.&lt;/em&gt;

Not that there is anything &quot;hot&quot; about them, but that plan isn&#039;t likely to survive more than one more budget cycle.  It&#039;s unaffordable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It looks presently like the SLS plans NASA is going to bring before Congress here in the near future, still calls for the use of those hot 5 seg. SRBs.</em></p>
<p>Not that there is anything &#8220;hot&#8221; about them, but that plan isn&#8217;t likely to survive more than one more budget cycle.  It&#8217;s unaffordable.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/06/17/a-partial-sls-competition-in-the-works/#comment-348142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;SpaceX can deliver a 150-ton Falcon derivative for $2.5 billion&quot;

Another press release. In fact, it HAS deliver a wheel of cheese, the hard way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SpaceX can deliver a 150-ton Falcon derivative for $2.5 billion&#8221;</p>
<p>Another press release. In fact, it HAS deliver a wheel of cheese, the hard way.</p>
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